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Intresting tidbit 3 : French police in action
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Yesterday I followed the "Radio-Courtoise" (main french conservative/right wing radio) intervention of two Action Police CFTC unionists, who came to discuss the recent riots... this was very enlightening... :

- The police officers ROE prevented them from responding to any provocation (in fact, the police was to avoid at all cost to be "provocative" itself); in one incident, a youth fired an handgun at a riot cop and ran away, and wasn't pursued.

- There was about 2000 arrests; of thoses, only 173 (about 9%) led to prison sentences, the highest being IIRC 4 months (while the theorical sentence for arson is... 10 years).

- Minors are untouchables; all the police can do is to bring them back home.

- All this is not new, there is a deliberate policy since 2002 of "outsourcing" the policing of theses area to the islamic powers, leaving the police to cordon them. This is what was tried by the gvt this time again, with the "mediators".
This is not working, even the UOIF (french muslim brotherhood) controls only "official" islam, while the true mover & shaker islam is under the spell of the GSPC (algerian salafists, linked to AQ).

- The gvt has chosen to lay down when confronted by the use of force, because it knows it lacks the ressources to fight a large scale "situation", and will continue its policy of buying the social peace.

- There are lots of weaponry in theses area, which have not been used so far.

- There is at least some coordination, with supposedly courriers going from one 'hood to the other to give objectives and a targets list.

- One of the declenching factors of this has been the drug shortage.
(precision from an another source, a forum, so take with salt : there is traditionally a cannabis/haschich shortage in summer, when the professional dealers, 95% of them being africans/arabs goes back to their country of origin. This time, the shortage extended beyond that period, because of an agreement between the EU and Morocco - producer of about 80% of european drug - to eradicate this culture, and a few big custom busts). This "dry spell" has disrupted the "black economy", estimated to literally billions of euros, and increased the tensions.

- The gvt has no real commitment to eradicate the "black economy", to keep theses areas placated; this summer, a departemental police administration linked the social aid files with the car registration ones; this led to the discovery of hundred of people supposedly living only with the socila aid from the State, but possessing one or several luxury cars, thus indicating other means of subsistance (drug,...).
This was expressely terminated by the higher hierarchy (the catholic rightwing talk show host mentioned the links between widespread Enlightened Elites substances abuses and the lack of will to enforce the law).

Hope that helps better understand what happened!
Posted by: anonymous5089 2005-11-10
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