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On genocide
These words were posted on Rantburg on Thursday evening, interjected into an entirely different heated argument going on at the same time:
Islam's abject refusal to abandon its obsession with genocide against the Jews must have only one result, a Muslim holocaust. They deserve nothing less for their vile and murderous troubles.
The result was that the heated argumenet broke down into two separate heated arguments and petered out when comments for that day shut down at midnight. The setiments stuck in my mind, where I found them nasty and irritating. I'm not an expert, but I'm going to try and lay out my thoughts on the matter. Again.

We're not going to kill a billion or a billion and a half innocents, even as a the most direct route to self-preservation.
Islam is the generic name of the religious system motivating our enemies. It is involved in terrorism as the motivator, despite pious denials to the contrary of periodic convocations of holy men. Islamists want to kill us. They want to obliterate our society and they want to replace our way of life, based on individual liberties and consent of the governed, with its antithesis, rooted in shariah. That's a fact, regardless of Rosie O'Donnell's opinion. The Learned Elders of Islam have stated that fact on enough occasions for anyone paying attention to believe them. The war is real, it's serious, and it's going worse than I'd have expected it to go five years ago. At the same time, we're not going to kill a billion or a billion and a half innocents, even as a the most direct route to self-preservation.

Genocide won't occur because,
Unlike the enemy, we recognize the existence and guarantee as much as possible the safety of non-combatants.
unlike the enemy, we recognize the existence and guarantee as much as possible the safety of non-combatants. We go to absurd lengths now to keep from killing civilians, even when armed and dangerous bad guys are using them as shields. That's almost the same principle we use in law enforcement; when Mr. Policeman is confronted by Muggsy holding a gun to the head of a hostage, we don't go ahead and kill the hostage to get to Muggsy. Under military conditions we might very well, but we try not to. The only thing that will cause us to nuke someone will be to be nuked ourselves first. Nothing will cause us to slaughter innocent non-combatants with the gusto and wild abandon that Islamists consider a virtue. There probably aren't any Dresdens in Islam's future.

We're not at war with all Muslims, despite claims to the contrary by the bad guys.
Another reason we're not going to kill all the Muslims in the world is because we're not at war with all of them, despite claims to the contrary by the bad guys, who want nothing more than to use them as shields. I've made the point here before that many of our allies are Muslims, starting with the gallant men of the Pandjir Valley in Afghanistan, the Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan, and including the segment of the Iraqi Arab populace that is working with us to try and clear the bad guys from their country. Islam is split along the Shia-Sunni divide. Within Shiism there are multiple further splits, including the Ismailis and the Bah'ai, neither of which presents a remote threat. Of the Qom and Najaf schools, Qom presents a threat and Najaf doesn't. Qom represents a Persian attempt to reassert Iran as a great power, something it hasn't been since pre-Islamic times. Najaf is Arab and it's a religious movement. Sistani is content to try and stay out of poltiics, even though he may be forced to take part by events on the ground.

Salafists reject all four schools of Islamic jurisprudence.
Within Sunni Islam there are four main schools of thought — Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali. Salafists — the enemy — reject all four schools. They are currently in the process of coopting the rest of the Sunni movement. Such alliances as there are — such as with the Deobandis — are tactical and temporary. Unlike us, Salafists don't hesitate to turn on their allies. Once the West is defeated and the flag of Islam is flying over the White House, the Salafists fully intend to declare anyone who isn't Salafist to be takfir. Absent Khomeiniism, our natural allies in the Muslim world would be the Shiites, followed by such adherents of the four Sunni schools as survive.

The war is going to wax and wane. The Rosie surrender lobby will try to keep it waned, and the bad guys will occasionally do something so egregioiusly horrible that action will have to be taken.
That's not to say that we're not going to do unpleasant things in the years to come. The war is something that's going to wax and wane. The Rosie surrender lobby, often disguised as "realists," will try to keep it waned, and the actual bad guys will occasionally do something so egregioiusly horrible that the surrender lobby is temporarily drowned out. They'll skulk in their holes while our troops clean out whichever Islamic hellhole is active at the time, and then they'll resume business as usual as soon as the danger's passed. Those who produced the required numbers of dead bodies will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Successful generals will be retired and the unsuccessful become TV talking heads. Blame will be apportioned. And a close eye will be kept on the polls and the next election. This is the process known as Shooting the Wounded, and we're watching it in Congress right now.

Posted by: Fred 2007-04-02
http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=184552