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Unsubstantiated report on Ranger School, mountain phase.
SOURCE RELIABILITY - RELIABLESent: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 11:03 pm Subject: Re: usma1969-forum: 10 Days to Graduation BOTL Buddies - - I have a friend, a retired XXXX Battalion Commander, who lives in Dahlonega near the Mountain Ranger Camp. I questioned him about what he knew or what his contacts knew about the successes of the ladies who are now in the Florida Phase of the Ranger Course. Below is the response I received from him. And for those of you who think I am a recalcitrant curmudgeon who hates women in the military, let me set you straight: I have no problem with women going to Ranger School and being awarded the Tab as long as the standards are not changed to allow them to pass when a male student would not pass if he performed identically. In fact, I, and I suspect all other Rangers, would hold in high regard any lady who could actually meet the Ranger Course's exacting and difficult challenges. XXXX, I am in very close contact with the Ranger Camp. The comments below from a Mountain Ranger Course Cadre [Ranger School instructor/grader] are pretty much what has happened. Bob When the administration wants something to succeed, they will do anything at all to make it succeed. For those of you who went to Ranger school, I will assume that you did not have a general officer as a lane grader (called a walker these days I guess) [the officer who observe you when you lead a patrol and grades you on whether you passed or failed]. When you are social engineering, you make things work regardless of the standards or the consequences because it's the engineering that's important. Here's the breakdown: Army wanted 200 of the most badass women from the army, guard and reserves to start ranger school in April. The deal was they had to pass RTAC to get a slot. 138 women attended several RTAC classes and 20 passed The 20 women were put in their own unit to train exclusively for Ranger school in the months preceding their start date. 1 quit before school started. 19 women started Ranger School in April. 11 failed in the first 3 days: pt test, land nav and road March All 8 failed patrols and were inserted into Darby the following class. All 8 failed patrols again. 5 were sent home and 3 were offered day 1 recycles. Nearing the end of their third attempt at Darby, all three had 2 failed patrols, and General Scott Miller (movement excellence commander of Ft Benning) showed up to be their guest walker. [As far as I know, no officer above the rank of colonel was ever a walker or lane grader. When I went to Ranger School, I believe the graders were all either NCOs or captains or majors. I do not even believe that any officer associated with the school was a general including the commandant of the ranger school. I think he was a LTC or Col.] All three passed. All three advanced to Mountains Nearing the end of the patrol phase of mountains all three women had 2 failed patrols and guess who showed up again to be their guest RI [?] walker..... 2 of the three passed, and one has been recycled. Some of the guys I work with here remember Miller from XXXXX XXXXX. I'm sure that's not what's being reported, but when we first heard a general had walked them, three of them chimed in with "Scotty Miller" in unison. They will pass, and probably be honor grads. " Sounds like command interference to me...[plain old dishonesty to me if they did not earn passing grades] Does not surprise me. The General's Boss most likely told him (Miller) if you want to make three stars, there will be female Ranger graduates! So he Santa Claused them so they would pass. Sad times. This PC BS will be the end of us, if it hasn't already sealed our fate! On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Forwarded via email, no link available. Posted by: Besoeker 2015-08-20 |
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