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This Week in Guns, January 2nd, 2016


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

This new year will bring a new executive order from the White House, which will give the ATF more power to determine if a seller of a firearms can be folded into the Federal firearms license system. The criteria will be whether a seller derives what percentage of his income from selling firearms. The new rule will likely force some private sellers into the FFL system.

This will affect how prices get reported in This Week in Guns. This column reports on prices offered for certain classes of firearms in private sales. As I look over the listings, I also look over every exemplar for each state to determine if that sales proposal is indeed private. If the seller in the description requires the sale go through an FFL, it qualifies as a dealer sale, and thus not a private sale. A number of dealers post on Armslist as unregistered private individuals, much the same as used car dealers "curbstone" some of their inventory to make it appear the vehicles are for sale by a private individual.

As a rule prices for firearms for those dealers are much lower than for private individuals, and is sometimes a dead giveaway as to who is selling.

The effect will likely be the median price for each state market will rise considerably, and the total average price for all states will rise only slightly, but they will rise. At the moment I am already seeing much higher prices for firearms in both rifles and handguns, but at the moment I can't tell if the rise is seasonal or due to the new proposed rules. Only time will tell.

An armed protest involving a number of militias is set to take place today, Saturday, January 2nd. I haven't followed this at all, but what little I do know is that the protest is against more federal government overreach. Oathkeepers has recommended against going. But who will follow their advice?

Another protest at Sugar Pine earlier this year was maintained by Oathkeepers effectively keeping militias out. Militias have a long memory.

Now a number of militias along with Ammon Bundy are issuing a call for militias to show up. And at the center of this effort is Ryan Payne.

Payne was at the center of the controversy at Bundy Ranch almost two years ago. He and a number of other militia leaders effectively ran Oathkeepers from the ranch after they decided to leave because of a spurious report of a federal government armed attack. Payne called Oathkeepers cowards, so it is sufficient to say he didn't win any friends.

Another beef Oathkeepers have is that Payne claimed to be a former Army Ranger, when he was not. What Payne did, was to run government-hired snipers off from the Bundy ranch, effectively collapsing the government effort.

Mike Vanderboegh called Payne an agent provocateur, but what if it is true? If Payne manages another government backdown, bad guy or not he is achieving the goals of Patriots and militias alike.

Switching gears, you know the saying about why have a .45? Because they don't make a .46? It appears they do...

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly steady, while prices for rifle ammunition were steady.

Prices for used pistols were higher across the board while prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .25 per round, Unchanged)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, Store Brand, FMJ, Brass, Reloads, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Blok Tactical, Store Brand, TMJ, Reloads, .24 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .23 per round, -.01 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Mart, Legendary, RSFP, Brass, Reloads, .22 per round (From Last Week: +.02 Each)

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (7 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .17 per round, +.01 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .18 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Pojeda, FMJ, Steel Cased, .16 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each)

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .28 per round, -.02 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Surplus Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .23 per round, +.02 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: BangItAmmo.com, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Sinclair International, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .39 per round, -.02 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .37 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .34 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2015: .23 per round, Unchanged)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: TrueCaliber.com, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
(From Q2, 2015: .06 per round, +.02 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds (10 Box Limit): Munire USA, Aguila, RNL .08 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds (5 Box Limit): Target Sports USA, Aguila, RNL, .08 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $551 Last Week Avg:$520 (+) ($616 (38 Weeks), $476 (14 Weeks))
California (194, 205): Mixed Build: $525 ($650 (48 Weeks), $400 (17 Weeks))
Texas (233, 248): Anderson Arms: $500 ($700 (43 Weeks), $350 (38 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (133, 155): Del-Ton: $600 ($700 (37 Weeks), $300 (25 Weeks))
Virginia (150, 153): Del-ton: $480 ($750 (43 Weeks), $480 (3 Weeks))
Florida (312, 327): Diamond Back DB-15: $650 ($650 (27 Weeks), $380 (39
Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $990 Last Week Avg: $1,000 (-) ($1,359 (37 Weeks), $820 (13 Weeks))
California (43, 46): CMMG: 1,000 ($1,700 (4Q, 2014), $850 (22 Weeks))
Texas (48, 51): Bushmaster: $1,000 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $800 (21 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (25, 24): Palmetto State Armory PA10: $900 ($1,500 (43 Weeks), $700 (14 Weeks))
Virginia (43, 49): DPMS LR-308: $1,050 ($1,650 (26 Weeks), $800 (9 Weeks))
Florida (62, 63): Armalite: $1,000 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $500 (13 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $509 Last Week Avg: $540 (-) ($626 (39 Weeks), $450 (24 Weeks))
California (43, 38): WASR 10: $599 ($700 (41 Weeks), $320 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (49, 43): WASR: $600 ($750 (41 Weeks), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (41, 41): I.O: $400 ($750 (48 Weeks), $375 (33 Weeks))
Virginia (48, 49): Norinco Sporter Mac 90: $450 ($625 (44 Weeks), $350 (46 Weeks))
Florida (70, 83): Czech VZ-2008: $500 ($650 (37 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $389 Last Week Avg: $397 (-) ($489 (45 Weeks), $296 (27 Weeks))
California (8, 9): Winchester Model 94: $400 ($500 (22 Weeks), $180 (29 Weeks))
Texas (21, 20): Marlin 336W: $400 ($550 (44 Weeks), $300 (49 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (15, 16): Winchester Model 94: $300 ($450 (47 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (6, 6): Winchester Ranger: $475 ($475 (3 Weeks), $250 (5 Weeks))
Florida (19, 22): Mossberg 464: $370 ($500 (43 Weeks), $250 (29 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $433 Last Week Avg: $376 (+) ($450 (43 Weeks), $350 (16 Weeks))
California (156, 160): Rock Island Armory: $500 ($600 (45 Weeks), $300 (23 Weeks))
Texas (163, 187): American Tactical Imports 1911: $425 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $325 (19 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (140, 142): CAI: $350 ($550 (35 Weeks), $300 (29 Weeks))
Virginia (130, 147): Rock Island Armory: $549 ($550 (37 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (291, 294): Tisas: $345 ($475 (48 Weeks), $250 (42 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $355 Last Week Avg: $297 (+) ($336 (40 Weeks), $268 (18 Weeks))
California (130, 132): Springfield XD30: $425 ($450 (45 Weeks), $200 (8 Weeks))
Texas (201, 221): Smith & Wesson 459: $350 ($355 (44 Weeks), $200 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (181, 185): Ruger P85: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (24 Weeks))
Virginia (162, 162): EAA: $425 ($425 (CA: $400 (37 Weeks)), $250 (24 Weeks))
Florida (359, 376): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $225 ($375 (4Q, 2014), $220 (17 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $355 Last Week Avg: $320 (+) ($368 (34 Weeks), $300 (3Q, 2014))
California (82, 86): Smith & Wesson SD40: $350 ($425 (18 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (101, 118): Smith & Wesson M&P .40C: $400 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $250 (3 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (67, 71): Smith & Wesson SW99: $300 ($350 (25 Weeks), $250 (45 Weeks))
Virginia (63, 62): TAURUS Millenium: $325 ($450 (34 Weeks), $275 (50 Weeks))
Florida (136, 134): Beretta 9000S: $400 ($400 (45 Weeks), $200 (18 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (New Hampshire)
Winchester Model 70 Chambered in .308 NATO

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter
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