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This Week in Guns, December 30th, 2017


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

The ATF has proposed a new rule regarding the bump stock, the device used in Las Vegas last fall to simulate full automatic rifle fire. I think if the rule is approved, the ATF will be sued and rule will be dropped.

I have an idea about regulating bump stocks: don't buy one. There - problem solved.

A news report from the UK Independent describes a New York leftist gun group, part of the Redneck Revolt network of leftist groups, whose intent is to protect minorities from Trump supporters by using firearms.

Much of the report is from the group’s founders, with little imput from anyone else. Commenters at Hershel Smith's blog point out that New York has draconian gun laws which can put a damper on the enthusiasm behind the new gun group. Because of that, Trump supporters can't get decent firearms in New York either.

Leaving aside for the moment the presumed nobility of their efforts to protect ethnic groups that did not ask to be protected, wouldn't it be easier to go with freedom? Ditch the 20,000+ gun laws in the US and let minorities decide how they will protect themselves?

Loads

Housekeeping notes:

Quarterly reports are out. Also included are price reports from a year ago. Not much to say about either except prices for ammunition have changed very little in the past year.

Also, the Used Gun of the Week was suggested by Besoeker.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mostly steady. Rifle ammunition prices were steady.

Prices for used pistols were mixed. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: .21 per round, +.01 Each)
(From Q4, 2016: .24 per round, -.02 Each)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Red River Reloading, Silver Bear, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: East Carolina trading, Own brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: .20 per round, +.01 Each)
(From Q4, 2016: .21 per round, Unchanged)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Own Brand, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TPMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
(From Q3, 2017: .14 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: .15 per round, -.01 Each)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Extreme Reloading, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Fedarm, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
(From Q3, 2017: .23 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: .25 per round, -.02 Each
)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: +.03 Each
(From Q4, 2017: .23 per round, +.01 Each)
(From Q4, 2016: No Data Available)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Defender Ammunition, Own Brand, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Defender Ammunition, Own brand, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: .19 per round, +.01 Each)
(From Q4, 2016: .22 per round, -.02 Each)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: AmmoMen, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
(From Q3, 2017: .32 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: .34 per round, -.02 Each)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
(From Q3, 2017: .19 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: .25 per round, -.06 Each)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: .54 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: No Data Available)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .53 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: .81 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: No Data Available)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .81 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .85 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2017: 2.36 per round, +.14 Each)
(From Q4, 2016: No Data Available)

Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.50 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Cabelas, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.80 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
(From Q3, 2017: .04 per round, Unchanged)
(From Q4, 2016: No Data Available)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Men, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 5,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $493 Last Week Avg: $453 (+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (17 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(114, 121): Mixed Build: $740 ($740 (CA: $625 (18 Weeks)), $300 (17 Weeks))
Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(363, 352): DPMS: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (249, 3Q, 2017(+6))(148, 152): American Tactical Imports: $450 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(210, 206): Mixed Build: $400 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $300 (5 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(454, 461): Smith & Wesson: $425 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $880 Last Week Avg: $810(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (29 Weeks))
Arizona (49, 3Q, 2017(+6))(45, 46): Palmetto State Armory: $1,250 ($2,300 (29 Weeks), $500 (12 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(83, 99): Bushmaster: $700 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $650 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(36, 40): Aero Precision: $900 ($1,600 (4Q, 2016), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(58, 62): Aero Precision: $850 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $675 (8 Weeks))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(82, 68): Aero Precision: $700 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $600 Last Week Avg: $560(-) ($668 (3Q, 2016), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (34, 3Q, 2017(+3))(23, 24): American Tactical Imports: $725 ($925 (29 Weeks), $400 (34 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(62, 64): Zastava NPAP: $525 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(49, 52): RAS-47: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(53, 58): Romak: $800 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $300 (8 Weeks))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(123, 128): RAS-47: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $365 Last Week Avg: $385(-) ($495 (4Q, 2016), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(5, 5): Winchester 94: $400 ($500 (49 Weeks), $200 (34 Weeks))
Texas (35, 3Q, 2017(+2))(32, 35): Winchester 94: $400 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (32 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(12, 12): Winchester 94: $400 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (19, 3Q, 2017(+3))(9, 12): Winchester 94: $300 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(24, 24): Marlin: $325 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $486 Last Week Avg: $461(+) ($525 (3Q, 2016), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (134, 3Q, 2017(+5))(95, 89): Tisas: $430 ($700 (33 Weeks), $325 (19 Weeks))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+3))(250, 255): Arcadia Machine and Tool: $550 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (4Q, 2016))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(164, 170): Remington R1: $450 ($600 (21 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (204, 3Q, 2017(+3))(168, 168): Kimber: $600 ($775 (21 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(321, 335): Taurus: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $350 Last Week Avg: $252(-) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (34 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(193, 194): Taurus PT111: $200 ($400 (40 Weeks), $180 (8 Weeks))
Texas (586, 3Q, 2017(+3))(479, 503): Smith & Wesson SW9VE: $250 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (10 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(325, 332): Kahr CW9: $200 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (46 Weeks))
Virginia (365, 3Q, 2017(+6))(316, 320): Ruger P95: $300 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(634, 675): Ruger SR9c: $300 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (34 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $297 Last Week Avg: $303(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(44, 45): Smith & Wesson MP40: $300 ($500 (50 Weeks), $195 (30 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(102, 107): Smith & Wesson SD40: $260 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $180 (13 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (115, 3Q, 2017(+5))(93, 95): Sig Sauer 2340: $325 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (3Q, 2016))
Virginia (109, 3Q, 2017(+4))(84, 84): Taurus PT740: $275 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $250 (4 Weeks))
Florida (193, 3Q, 2017(+3))(159, 159): Beretta Storm: $325 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (South Carolina)
Sako A7 Long Range bolt action rifle chambered in .308 NATO
Posted by: badanov 2017-12-30
http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=504663