Mark Levin: As chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, did the Obama administration spy on the Trump campaign?

Rep. Devin Nunes: I think it’s pretty clear, and average Americans understand, that that happened.

Levin: My argument to you, sir, is that this goes right to the top. The president [Obama] may not know all of the particulars but he had to know a hell of a lot from the public record and from his own people. What do you say?

Nunes: Well, it’s hard to believe that she [National Security Advisor and top Obama confidante Susan Rice] didn’t know that. The letter that she writes to herself on January 20th [2017], hours before the Trump administration comes into power, it doesn’t make any sense other than to say it must have been some type of way to justify whatever actions were taken or [to] cover something up. . .

Nunes: This has been the challenge historically for the Congress. Once they create something [not in the Constitution, like the courts and the FBI], it’s hard to oversee it, it’s hard to shut it down, it’s hard to control it. What our committee has done, for the first time in a long time ‐ with the help of all of our members, on the Republican side at least ‐ who want to get to the bottom, to get to the truth. This is the first time in a long time when you've seen Congress really use our authority and use our power to go all the way to the courts to get information to try to rein in out-of-control bureaucracies. It should alarm people what it has taken for us to get to the bottom of this fiasco that’s occurred. . .

Nunes: The media in this country is dead. It no longer exists and the American people need to understand this. I don’t know where it’s going to all end ‐ if it’s dead forever ‐ but 90% of the media is far left wing, and they are totally reliant on getting clicks and playing to their base and to their owners to support what their owners want. .

Levin: We have what I call a Praetorian Guard media ‐ they’re going to protect the Obama administration no matter what that administration did or does. If the shoe were on the other foot ‐ if this were a Republican administration that did this to a Democratic candidate ‐ it would be the greatest scandal in American history.