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Britain
Charges over Israel suicide blast
2003-05-09
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Two women and a man have been charged by police in the UK in connection with a suicide bomb attack in Israel in which three people died. The three, who come from Derbyshire, have been charged under Section 38 of the Terrorism Act 2000. This covers failure to disclose information about acts of terrorism. Scotland Yard later named the man charged as Zahid Hussain Sharif, 46, and the women as 35-year-old Paveen Akthor Sharif, 35, and Tahari Shad Tabassum, 27. All three are from Derby. Paveen Sharif has also been charged under section 62 of the Terrorism Act which covers aiding and abetting acts of terrorism overseas. Three other people arrested on 2 and 3 of May in Derbyshire and London have been released from police custody.
I'm not too sure how accurate it is to describe these people as Brits. I understand they're originally from Pakistan — where else? I'd guess that Omar's probably back there by now...
Posted by:Bulldog

#11  One of my closest friends, and an old flatmate, is a Muslim who hails from the same neck of the woods as Hanif. She's a doctor and contributes more to British society than most, certainly more than me. She wasn't born here but is British, but has spent most of her life here, and wouldn't call anywhere else 'home' Two years before September 11, almost to the day, we visited the World Trade Centre together. What made one Muslim become a suicide bomber, and the other a model citizen? There are myriad reasons, and each individual is exposed to different influences.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-05-09 13:49:06  

#10  Becky makes a great point. I think the West's biggest weakness in this mess is the promotion of "tolerance" and "diversity" at any price--especially when it means tolerance of those who have proclaimed themselves to be intolerant of our values. However, from the other end comes the assault on our freedoms and personal liberties under the guise of the "Patriot" acts.
Posted by: Dar   2003-05-09 13:30:23  

#9  "The Lord Mayor of London doesn't like GW Bush. I can't stand that Saudi loving, pious, dypso, over-achiever either and refer to him as Dork-One, but these reasons are laughable: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3011999.stm NUKE UNHOLY MECCA!
Posted by: Anonon 5/9/2003 5:16:36 AM"

Unfortunately, you have the wrong guy. Ken Livingstone is the Mayor of London, not the Lord Mayor. The Lord Mayor is for the City of London, or the Square Mile, or City as its called. Two different guys - believe me the Lord Mayor is the antithesis of "Red Ken". When Ken opens his mouth its as if the Soviet Union was still alive and needing all its western apologists. He is more than a dork - he is an idiot cum naive dufus.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2003-05-09 09:17:19  

#8  skim latte, grande please.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-05-09 08:43:34  

#7  Saudi-loving? Have you been reading the news lately Anon? or just viewing it? One involves observation, the other - understanding. Perhaps you didn't notice the army based on Saudi's doorstep or the fact we've pulled out of PSAB? Have we noticed a different approach from the Saudis lately? Why is Al-Qaeda turning on the Princelings? I'd say Ptah's date is a fully acceptable milestone
Posted by: Frank G   2003-05-09 08:04:20  

#6  "I'm not too sure how accurate it is to describe these people as Brits".

Well, that puts the finger right on top of the problem faced by all free and democratic governments today, doesn't it? We are all downright stumped on how best to rid ourselves of our "countrymen" (and guests) who not only, don't share our values, but actively work to destroy them and replace them with their own.

It's the question for our age. How do you protect freedom without restricting it? How do you protect a democracy if totalitarian forces are allowed to rally enough of our "countrymen" to vote against it?
Posted by: Becky   2003-05-09 11:52:39  

#5  Hope the authorities in London are paying attention. As long as Paleos were blowing up Isrealis, one could ignore the issue as just a problem "over there". Now that the local boys are blowing themselves up "over there", it is not a stretch to see them try it in their own neighborhoods.
Posted by: john   2003-05-09 11:01:13  

#4  Holy Koran Batman. More Jihadies and they are pissed.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-05-09 10:40:48  

#3  Fred, Sharif (the sprinter) and Hanif (the boomer) can, unfortunately, certainly be described as British, though their families moved here from South Asia when they were young or before they were born. Quiet, unassuming characters too, apparently. Seems as though they fell under extremist influences when they left the family homes. Check the profiles I've linked to from the Beeb, and this Telegraph article.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-05-09 10:25:55  

#2  Hmm, an overachiever being labelled as a Dork. New one to me.

There are good reasons for Bush to be kissing Saudi ass NOW. Those reasons are becoming less and less valid each day. If you look at recent posts, it's obvious the Saudis realize that. It remains to be seen whether Dubya eventually will decide to stop kissing and start biting.

Personally, I'm withholding judgment on Dubya until October of 2004: A lot can happen in a year.

However, anyone who thinks that I'm not going to vote for a man who does 80% of what I want so that some morons get a better chance to elect a fellow moron who does only 20% of what I want, is a moron themselves. I may be pissed, but I'm not stupid...
Posted by: Ptah   2003-05-09 07:04:41  

#1  The Lord Mayor of London doesn't like GW Bush. I can't stand that Saudi loving, pious, dypso, over-achiever either and refer to him as Dork-One, but these reasons are laughable:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3011999.stm

NUKE UNHOLY MECCA!
Posted by: Anonon   2003-05-09 05:16:36  

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