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India-Pakistan
Nuggets from the Urdu press
2003-05-09
Altaf Hussain in ‘trubbel’
According to daily Pakistan, a lot of ulema in Pakistan have objected to MQM chief Altaf Hussain calling the late Qadiani leader Mirza Tahir a marhoom (deceased). The ulema said that calling a kafir marhoom and praying for him was an act of apostasy. They said those who pronounced a kafir marhoom without knowing the subtleties of the issue were sinners but those who did so knowingly were apostates themselves. The newspaper said that many people rang up to protest. The clerics in Pakistan asked the government not to allow the dead body of Mirza Tahir to be brought to Pakistan for burial. Khabrain reported the most anti-Ahmedi cleric Maulana Chinioti as thanking the government for refusing permission for Mirza Tahir’s burial in Pakistan. According to Khabrain, Maulana Abdul Hafeez Makki said in Chiniot that the UK was an old imperialist state which gave facilities for the funeral of Mirza Tahir. He said he would pursue the case of blasphemy against the Quran by the new Ahmedi leader Mirza Masroor and bring him to justice.
That obviously has something to do with fine points of Islamic law that kufirs like us will never understand. If he's dead, then he's by definition "deceased." If they really want to do it right, though, they should bring the poor guy's corpse back to Pakland so they can hold a synod horrenda. That's sure show those daggone Ahmadiya blasphemers, by gum...
No pants in NWFP
Daily Nawa-e-Waqt reported that the NWFP assembly had passed a law saying that Western pants and shirt were against Islamic shariah and were a burden financially on school going citizens. The assembly dubbed pants a symbol of slavery and banned it in all schools. The opposition walked out in protest.
Were they wearing pants? It's amazing, the number of things that're against Islamic shariah. Like toilet paper...
Hafiz Saeed refuses to bend
I would, too, if I wasn't wearing pants...
Daily Pakistan reported that the government had taken serious note of Lashkar e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed’s statements against America and violent language used in regard to Kashmir and had asked him to use restraint but he had rejected the advice. Hafiz Saeed said that UN inspectors visiting Pakistan to inspect installation were CIA men who would fix electronic chips on Pakistan’s sensitive parts and then use satellites to bomb these sensitive parts. Daily Nawa-e-Waqt reported that Hafiz Saeed stated that Foreign minister Kasuri was following American dictation whereas the only way to go was look the Americans in the eye and do jehad against them.
Works like a charm for every place that tries it, doesn't it?
Pakistan should join the emerging powers
Retired chief of army staff Aslam Beg said in Jang that India and America did not have the guts to attack Pakistan. Pakistan should join the emerging powers in Europe. He said France, Germany and Russia who were the big shareholders in the IMF had asked Pakistan to support them against America. He also said that in 2002 Europe, America and Israel had encouraged India to attack Pakistan but now the situation had changed.
Aslam wants Pakland to be an emerging power instead of a failed state. The reflexive anti-Americanism of goobers like him makes the country an easy pluck if the Frenchies want to drive a wedge between them and us — so watch for that to happen. We'll be standing around looking anguished until the deed is done, at which point we can heave a sigh of relief and let Dominique deal with them until it's their turn in the barrel...
We will get Israel!
Military genius and ex-ISI chief retired general Hamid Gul told Khabrain magazine that Pakistan’s missiles could deliver a nuclear weapon as far east as Madras in India and Israel in the West. One-third of all Jews in the world were in Israel which meant that ‘the bird had itself flown into the net’. He said that sooner or later America will ask for control over Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. He said democracy was sinking in Britain and America and that America will cause its own destruction. He said Pakistan needed three Js: jamhuriat, jehad, jauhri programme (democracy, jehad and nuclear weapons).
Now, I'd say that what Pakland really needs is some serious medication...
Al Muhajiroun declares revolution
According to Nawa-e-Waqt retired and convicted major general Zaheerul Islam Abbasi told a congregation of the British-based organisation Al Muhajiroun Harkat al-Khilafa that it was no use enforcing Islam legally. It had to be enforced forcibly and for that the religious forces should surround Islamabad. The gathering decided that the crusades were on and the Islamic world had to do jehad.
I tend to agree with the statement. Once the forces of ignorance, hatred, and loose cannonry declared war on us, for our own safety it became incumbent upon us to fight back...
Islamic council against birthdays!
According to Jang, Council for Islamic Ideology (CII) declared that such ceremonies as birthdays, mehndi, engagement, circumcision, drinking milk, and many other rituals as against Islam. It disapproved of the feasts attached to these rituals. Only walima (feast from the bridegroom) was found to be Islamic.
At least there's something in this world that's Islamic. I think the basic principle here is that if it's not found in the koran or the sunnah, it's not Islamic. That means icebergs aren't Islamic, the planet Neptune is not Islamic, and microbes aren't Islamic...
Women killed for honour
According to daily Din, 450 women were killed in Pakistan in 2002 on the basis of honour. In Sindh, 88 women were killed, in Punjab 95, in Balochistan 91 and in the NWFP 76. The paper said it was because of lack of education.
If that was a reason for killing people, Pakland would be depopulated by now...
Posted by:Paul Moloney

#11  "Qadiani" is a pejorative term for the Ahmadiyyah sect of Islam. After Wahabi clerics issued fatwah denouncements of the cult, Pakistan's Parliament altered the constitution of the "Islamic Republic" to declare the sect "non-Islamic." Freedom of religion doesn't exist in Bush Junior's two favored Muslim entities. Of course, he is thinking of the $60,000,000 in Wahabi booty that Cheney pocketed after the Gulf War 1. As for the "Urdu press" note, less than 10% of Pakis speak that proposed lingua franca. Most of the sources quoted are Punjabi.
Posted by: Anonon   2003-05-09 14:05:15  

#10  TT: I third that motion.
Posted by: Michael   2003-05-09 12:34:56  

#9  Yes but the weasels had to know that they would attract (the interest at least) this type of riff-raff like flies to shit with their alternative node of ankle-bitting power to balance against the U.S. They want to do business with these freaks in the belief that they'll be able to control them. Idiots.

By the way, how many of these people studied at Saudi funded madrassas, or worship at Saudi funded mosques, or get publishing money from the Sauds?
Posted by: Tokyo Taro   2003-05-09 09:03:58  

#8  intersting also that Aslam beg thinks pakland should aling with axis of weasels - while it illustrates the way anti-americans see hope in the axis, it also makes no sense for Pakland. On the one hand Russia and Pakland have had clashing interests in afghan and central asia a long time. Also France and Germany would have trouble justifying to Eurolefties an alignment with Perv, not to mention a more islamic Pakland. And of course such a realignment would have them dancing a jig in New Delhi - clearly the axis doesnt have the military clout of US/UK.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-05-09 08:52:45  

#7  they were objecting to the fact that the word mahoum was used, apparently a term that implies "he's dead, god bless him" Objected because hes ahmedi, some breakaway group thats not considered truely Islamic. Apparently this group was a big issue in Pakland at one time, and for the crazy turbans it still is.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-05-09 08:48:47  

#6  "Behind you Robin, More jihadies" POW.
"I see a lunatic fringe to all this Batman."
"Holy Koran Robin, It's the holy Koran."
"But why Batman?"
"Look out Robin, more jihadies"
Posted by: Lucky   2003-05-09 11:34:48  

#5  TT - all of them. Saudi money is about all that keeps the turbaneers going.
Posted by: Sofia   2003-05-09 11:12:48  

#4  So is a Pak "military genius" one step up from a Pak "expert?" This is going to be a long war.
Posted by: 11A5S   2003-05-09 11:12:26  

#3  I got really confused by the first para. Were they objecting to the fact he was dead, or that someone said he was dead? Or that someone said the equivalent of "He's dead, God bless him."?

There's a drinking milk ritual? And it's against Islam? Moooooo.
Posted by: Chuck   2003-05-09 07:29:32  

#2  Madness indeed. Apparently the Pakistanis and North Koreans both have a lot of lead in their drinking water. Iran is looking rather civil in comparison.
Posted by: Tom   2003-05-09 07:08:21  

#1  Ahhhhhhh!!!!! Madness!!!! And they've got nukes. Or at least they live in a country with nukes and they've managed to get their own newspapers and after Afghanistan, one can never be confident that they will never gain power.
Posted by: Tokyo Taro   2003-05-09 06:21:52  

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