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India-Pakistan
Nuggets from the Urdu press
2003-05-16
Singers in ‘trubbel’
According to Khabrain popular Pakistani singers and actresses Nasibo Lal, Saima, Mira and Sana had been summoned to court along with culture ministry and the police to answer charges of obscenity. Two young men of Baghbanpura Lahore, Qasim and Imtiaz, were listening to songs at a tea stall when they thought of using Islam to make the artists come to court after being arrested. One song was stick under the bed, the other objectionable song was pot for milk. The two young men said they were so pious they could not listen to the songs without being upset.
Well, yeah. I guess I can understand why they'd be upset. "Stick under the bed" — Oooh! Carnal imagery! And "Pot for milk"? That's an obvious reference to boobies. Anybody with an exceptionally dirty mind would get either of them...
Insulting the holy Quran
According to Khabrain, two men in Gujranwala, Yusuf and Loha Pehlwan, burnt the Quran and were handed over to the police. But the local people became incensed and gathered at the police station under the leadership of local ulema and asked the police to let them kill the two insulters. The newspaper also reported two brothers in Chichawatni who threw the Quran down on the floor during a scuffle with a man who had broken the engagement of his daughter with one of them. The two brothers attacked the house but the girl came out with Quran held aloft.
"They have [fill in offense here]! They must be killed!"
Hafiz Said’s wisdom
As reported in Khabrain leader of banned Lashkar e-Taiba said in Faisalabad that Pakistan should train its population to become like Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guards, after which the armed forces of Pakistan should be sent to Iraq to fight against the Americans. He was speaking at Faisalabad which is the centre of Ahle Hadith organisations. Another speaker at the Faisalabad gathering said that Pakistan should threaten America with a nuclear strike. Nawa-e-Waqt reported Hafiz Saeed as saying that Pakistani rulers would hand over the country’s nuclear weapons if the Americans demanded them. He said that Iraq would become a graveyard for the American dead.

A she-devil rises in Norway
Sultan Mehmood writing in Nawa-e-Waqt reported that a Pakistani lady in Norway was a she-devil making the life of pious Pakistanis there impossible through her programmes against arranged marriage, Islamic hudood and women’s circumcision in the Muslim world. A graduate of Oslo university the Pakistani girl was printing articles against the mullahs. After a Muslim killed his daughter because she had married a non-Muslim Swede, she took out a procession of protest in Oslo, after which Pakistani Muslims took out a counter-procession against her procession.
Can't kill his daughter? By Gawd, the woman is making life for pious Pakistanis impossible!
Everybody tells lies
Columnist Hamid Mir wrote in Jang that all political parties hid the truth. Ex-president Mian Azhar was saved from a vote of no-confidence by General Musharraf and although he was later made to resign, he still did not admit that PML(Q) was King’s Party. PPPP’s Makhdoom Amin Fahim was prevented from becoming prime minister by Ms Bhutto, the chief ministership of his son was sabotaged, and he was himself not chosen as leader of his party in parliament. He was prevented from joining the MMA at the centre but allowed to do so in Sindh, as a result of which he had tendered his resignation, but still he maintained that he had no differences with Ms Bhutto. MMA got its big vote because of the hatred against America and its attack on the Taliban but MMA kept denying this and instead claimed that it had won because the religious parties had united. The MMA then got together with the PML(Q) in Balochistan and the PPPP in Sindh but refused to cast vote for Jamali at the centre. The MMA leaders Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Qazi Hussain Ahmad fell out over the question of by-election nominations. Both denied it but Maulana Samiul Haq and Prof Sajid Mir seemed to be siding with Qazi Sahib in this division.

Threaten America with nuclear strike!
Talking to Khabrain, General (Retd) Zahid Ali Akbar said that if America bombed Pakistan then Pakistan should threaten the United States with a nuclear strike on their naval fleet nearest to Pakistan. He said if too many body bags reached America the public there would reject Bush and elect a Democrat president who may firmly take the US back to the United Nations. He said if he was in Saddam’s shoes he would have made chemical weapons. He said if he was General Musharraf I would prepare a missile with a 2000-mile range so as to reach Israel.

If Kurd state is created
Famous columnist Nazeer Naji wrote in Jang that if the Americans created a Kurd state in the Iraqi north then a parallel state containing central Iraq and Jordan could come into being. This new state would clash with Iran and would be supported by Israel.

Americans will get roasted!
Famous war expert Captain (Retd) Saeed Tiwana wrote in daily Pakistan that American troops in Iraq desert will get roasted in summer. He said the America war planners were at each other’s throats and that President Bush was taking strong pain-killers like his father, Saddam's earlier victim. He said America will get great beating in Iraq and President Bush will stand trial for war crimes.
Posted by:Paul Moloney

#11  Paul Moloney is just scratching the surface. There are a lot of countries out there that think like that. China and South Korea (that's no typo) are just two of 'em. If most Americans knew how many crazies are out there running countries (and that's just our so-called friends), we'd abolish the State Department and rename Defense the War Department.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2003-05-16 14:54:06  

#10  
He said if too many body bags reached America the public there would reject Bush and elect a Democrat president who may firmly take the US back to the United Nations.

Hahahahhahahahahahahahaha!
They certainly do NOT understand the US. I guess all those years of lip-biting and teary admonishments as our sovreignty was handed over to the UN, made the Pakis think that America was a weak as Bill's knees when Hillary bitch-slaps him.
They would just LOVE for us to go back to the UN so they can hide behind the Annan Butcher Brigade™ and get a little Western street cred for their cancerous Islamist movement.
He said if he was in Saddam’s shoes he would have made chemical weapons. He said if he was General Musharraf I would prepare a missile with a 2000-mile range so as to reach Israel.

I've come to the reluctant conclusion that about 1 billion people are insane with religiously sanctioned hatred, anti-semitism, and violence.
Can you guess which billion?
Posted by: Celissa   2003-05-16 12:47:46  

#9  Anon. B. H. Liddell-Hart got a medical retirement as a captain from the British Army after WW I.
He went on to become a scholar and widely-respected military historian and theorist.
Unfortunately, one of his biggest fans was Guderian.
Presumably, his combat experience and his scholarship are a particularly useful combination.
In the American military, captains are exposed to substantial education beyond moving platoons around which would make them experts compared to practically anybody but their superiors.
Still, this guy....
Posted by: Richard Aubrey   2003-05-16 11:04:31  

#8  Where's a Kemalist Thought Club when you need one?
Posted by: Shipman   2003-05-16 10:28:07  

#7  And we thought the North Koreans were nuts???
Posted by: tu3031   2003-05-16 10:11:42  

#6  One song was stick under the bed, the other objectionable song was pot for milk. The two young men said they were so pious they could not listen to the songs without being upset.

Play Misty for Me does that to me all the time. :-)
Posted by: Steve White   2003-05-16 09:55:55  

#5   As reported in Khabrain leader of banned Lashkar-e-Tayba said in Faisalabad that Pakistan should train its population to become like Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guards, after which the armed forces of Pakistan should be sent to Iraq to fight against the Americans.

Yep, that will have us shaking in our shoes, train 'em up like the Republican Guard. Do these guys have any clue what happened in Iraq?
Posted by: Steve White   2003-05-16 09:54:03  

#4  then Pakistan should threaten the United States with a nuclear strike

Talk about gratitude! Jeez, Gen. Zia ul-Haq (sp.) must rolling over in his grave! The prospect, or threat thereof, however, gives us an opportunity to try the Indo-US-Israeli alliance that the Indian National Security Advisor was discussing. We do have an opening on the Axis of Evil, now, right?
Posted by: Brian   2003-05-16 09:20:57  

#3  The Pakistani magazine that quotes these 'nuggets' is one of the countries few liberal media outlets, and they have a strong dislike for the Mullahs and the Army. So whenever one of Pakistan's seemingly endless supply of retired Generals, Colonels, Captains comment on current events, they use terms like "famous war expert" or "military genious" as a joke, since the Army has lost every war it has fought.
Posted by: Paul Moloney   2003-05-16 07:35:30  

#2  Theses lil' nuggets of wisdom are a favorite of mine. OT : apart for a mind-numbing compulsory 1-yr draft, I have no military background; please, could someone explain how a captain could ever be considered a "famous war expert", except perhaps at company level?
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-05-16 06:36:56  

#1  He said if too many body bags reached America the public there would reject Bush and elect a Democrat president who may firmly take the US back to the United Nations.

My good sir, your perception of United States Presidential politics is exceptional for a Muslim. By all means please endorse the Democrat Nominee after their Convention, and I shall be happy to advertise said endorsement, with full attribution.

Nitwit.
Posted by: Ptah   2003-05-16 06:19:30  

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