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Britain
Web sting links Hamza to terror camps
2003-07-21
A SOPHISTICATED internet sting has provided fresh evidence linking Abu Hamza to terror camps. Hamza is said to have been so convinced by a British undercover investigator posing as an extremist website operator that he allegedly sent him several secret propaganda films designed to attract new recruits. The videos were used to convince British Muslims to undergo jihad training at camps in Afghanistan and Bosnia. The tapes and e-mails were obtained by Glen Jenvey, a 38-year-old freelance counterintelligence investigator from Wiltshire, over a period of more than a year. As the evidence flowed in, Jenvey forwarded it to the FBI, which is now building a case to extradite Hamza to America.
Thank you, Times, for publishing his name and location. I hope his survivors sue your ass off...
Last week Scotland Yard confirmed that anti-terrorist branch officers had taken a statement from Jenvey and sent a copy to the FBI. The evidence is being marshalled by US government prosecutors in New York, where Hamza is part of a grand jury investigation into a plot to provide weapons training to American mujaheddin on a cattle ranch in Bly, Oregon. If the grand jury charges Hamza with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, which carries a 25-year jail sentence, sources close to the case say they will press for his extradition to America.
I'd guess that the grand jury's going to indict him, unless the DA's been dropped on his head...
According to statements given to the anti-terrorist branch in March, Jenvey set up an internet site called islamic-news.co.uk in 2002 using the fictitious name Pervez Khan. He published news items on the site from Kashmiri extremist groups and other hardline Islamic propaganda. Once established, he sent the material to Hamza’s website — supportersofshariah.org, which is now shut down. “He was so pleased with this he decided to put a link to my site from his site. That was his first big mistake,” said Jenvey last week. As a consequence, Jenvey was able to monitor everyone who logged on to Hamza’s website, a facility he passed on to the FBI so that it could also monitor Hamza’s activities.
Being a dope, I'd only know how to monitor everyone who clicked through. But go on...
He then decided to take the operation a step further. “By now I was getting close to Hamza. He trusted me,” said Jenvey. “We had been e-mailing each other a lot and I had been passing the e-mails to the FBI. We also started to speak on the phone. “I started to suggest I could help him recruit people for his jihad. He became very excited by this. He would burble prayers down the phone in an almost demented fashion. I thought he must be a bit mad.
"A bit." That's British understatement, y'know...
“He said he would send me some material to help me win supporters and prepare them for jihad. He said he had some special tapes but that they were somewhere secret and he did not keep them in the mosque. He said they would be sent to me.” Less than a month later a package arrived at Jenvey’s home. Inside were 20 audio tapes. A second package arrived a week later with six two-hour video tapes. Jenvey was shocked by what he saw. One tape starts by showing a training camp in Bosnia and scenes of urban combat training. Jihad anthems play in the background and a voice in English says: “Make ready to continue to terrorise the enemy of Allah.”
Ummm... Has anyone sought out those training camps in Bosnia, by chance?
The tape later cuts to Hamza speaking to a private audience in London about “so-called” suicide bombers. He appears to use the Koran to justify the tactic. “It is to inflict suffering, it is in the time, in the methodology of suicide, it is there and at its peak,” says Hamza. In another tape, three British volunteers are interviewed in Bosnia about their experiences. All three urge Muslims at home to undergo jihad training and criticise those who are content to merely donate money or lend moral support. The first volunteer identifies himself as being from north London. He says he is a third-year medical student at Birmingham University. Hiding his face behind a black scarf, he holds an assault rifle aloft as he speaks to the camera and talks about the satisfaction of seeing “hundreds of dead bodies” in Bosnia. Another tape opens with scenes of what appears to be a massacre of Serbian civilians in a village in Bosnia. The camera roves around the scene, focusing on corpses that litter the ground. Some of the bodies are being taken away on stretchers by distraught relatives. A jihad anthem plays in the background. Another tape, allegedly provided by Hamza, is a documentary in Arabic about the building of the World Trade Center in New York and the Petronas Towers in Malaysia. It was made prior to September 11. Jenvey continued to monitor Hamza’s website. In April this year he noticed a film showing Russian soldiers being blown up by Chechnyan terrorists. The rest off the film was available through a link from Hamza’s website. It showed training with live ammunition at a camp in Afghanistan and appears to be an exercise for would-be assassins. Some of the target images projected on to a screen are of western politicians.

And this is from a "freelance counterintelligence investigator." If the pros don't have much more and better than this, we're all wasting our tax dollars — and we're going to lose the WOT...
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#8  Yikes, I had this site bookmarked and was monitoring it for quite some time. SOS of course. Overjoyed they have been shut down. Also noticed at least one of their sister sites down also.
Posted by: parallaxview   2003-7-22 3:06:26 AM  

#7  The way to monitor everyone is to get him to post an image link to your site. Then everyone who goes to the page with that image will fetch it from your site. Instant tracking - also known as a web bug when the image is too small to be seen. This can also be used in HTML email.
Posted by: John Moore (Useful Fools)   2003-7-21 11:42:44 PM  

#6  Hook Boy
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-7-21 7:52:58 PM  

#5  wasn't this guy the bastard who went on tv after 9-11 whinning that he was be denied his rights and due process because he is muslim? anyone who supports killers does not desreve due process. if i were to kill someone or help facilitate the killing of someone my rights would also be taken away!
Posted by: Dan   2003-7-21 7:15:00 PM  

#4  I recommend the best pkg ever put together in Witness Protection Pgm. He's a fucking hero - not a slimy mob killer covering his ass.

The Times should be brutalized for this stupid gaffe, and should have to pick up the tab.
Posted by: PD   2003-7-21 5:45:55 PM  

#3  please help complain about abu hamza. write to british embassy.yes i can monitor anyone who says anything about my sites.hamza will soon find out...
Posted by: GLEN   2003-7-21 4:40:16 PM  

#2  Glen Jenvey was luckey he did not get a package bomb instead of a box of videotape. Better watch your six from now on, Glen. Though your effort is much appreciated.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-7-21 2:49:33 PM  

#1  Nah. Freelancers like this is why we'll win the WOT: can you imagine any Pak citizen doing something like this? And if he did, what would happen to him?

We have 290 million people; excluding Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin and the Ditzy Chicks (okay, a few others) we have plenty of intellectual and moral horsepower outside the government that will come up with ways to help. There's something the Islamists will never have.
Posted by: Steve White   2003-7-21 2:45:15 PM  

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