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"Bush Knew": 9/11 conspiracy theorists meet in Berlin
2003-09-06
And the guest list has some familiar names...(and do follow the links)
Writers and activists who believe the United States government is hiding the truth about the September 11 attacks will hold a conference in Berlin this Sunday, organisers announced. The meeting of US and European activists will compile a list of questions and demands for documents to be submitted to the US and German governments as well as the European Union on the second anniversary of the attacks.
  • "I take the position that the (US President George W) Bush administration had absolute fore-knowledge of the attacks," said Michael Ruppert, who is one of the organisers, adding that he believed Bush had "facilitated" the attacks.

  • A former member of the US Congress, Cynthia McKinney, who is also due to address the conference, told reporters: "Who else knows ... why were the innocent people of New York not warned."

  • Another organiser, Nicholas Levis from New York, said the conference was encouraged by the fact that a recent opinion poll showed 19 per cent of Germans believed the US government may have given the order for the September 11 attacks.
Posted by:seafarious

#21  McKinney's only recently evolved into walking in an upright position. She defines stupidity and really doesn't have a clue what / where Berlin is. Ask this knuckledragger to find Germany on a map and you'd get a blank stare. She'd be pathetic, really, if it wasn't for all the people out there who think she's on to something.
Posted by: Ned   2003-9-7 4:35:01 AM  

#20  Wasn't Ruppert the guy who filed a lawsuit in Belgium against W, Rummy and/or Franks?
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-9-7 3:39:01 AM  

#19  
So 20 percent of Germans believe that the dark powers of U.S. intelligence did it. Ok, but how many Americans believe that Elvis lives?


Believing Elvis lives doesn't involve spitting on the graves of 3,000 innocent people. Believing Elvis lives doesn't involve ignoring a continuing threat to the lives of millions more.

How many Germans don't believe in the Holocaust anymore?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-9-7 2:33:39 AM  

#18  If the US government were really effective at deception, wouldn't it make sence that we would have "found" WMD within about 15 minutes of entering Iraq. We're lousy at deception because as an open society someone always outs the conspiracy for a book deal and an appearance with Katie Couric.
Posted by: Super Hose   2003-9-6 10:30:04 PM  

#17  I could write novels about German conspiracy theory books here. The most notable character is Andreas von Bülow, ex-member of the German Parliamentary Commission that controls the intelligence services and Minister for Science and Technology (1980-182) under the SPD Schmidt government. According to him:

- The planes crashing into WTC were not flown by terrorists but guided into the towers by remote control from WTC 7 (sheltering CIA, very bad secret documents and other most secret stuff)

- The towers did not collapse because of the crash but were exploded by a (CIA?) demolition crew.

- No plane ever flew into the Pentagon (bomb planted by the dark forces)

- All evidence (videos etc.) of the terrorists was faked, including the phone calls from the hijacked planes (Hollywood can do aaaaanything)

A rather smart interviewer asked him why, if the CIA was that cunning smart, it couldn't fake a few WMD in Iraq and see to it that the terrorists had direct links to Saddam. (chirp chirp)

And that's just one guy who sells 100000s of copies. Look out for Mr. Bröckers and Mr. Wisniewski.

Oh no, these guys are smart, they don't say that this happened the way they describe it, they just pile up questions and say, hmmmm, could it not have been THAT way instead.

So 20 percent of Germans believe that the dark powers of U.S. intelligence did it. Ok, but how many Americans believe that Elvis lives?

There are open questions with 9/11: most could be answered with a bit of common sense.

Btw I knew that Rafael wasn't serious. The 4000 Jews that never showed up for work is a hoax that has been traced back to some obscure Jordanian paper (maybe). Repeat it often enough and it becomes something of a "fact". Type "Odigo" into Google and hundreds of pages pop up that claim that Jews were warned by IM of the attack. Ah, that makes sense, right. Odigo is an Israeli company, of course the Jewish pals were warned. Of course nobody has ever given any evidence that such a message was sent out. Btw Odigo is freely used by anyone. Did all these Jews not have a single non-Jewish friend to warn? Saaaaad, I tellya! How secret is a message that gets sent out to thousands?

But conspiracy theories against intelligence services are ten a penny. Because you can publish the biggest BS, it will never get a denial.

Of course Tom Clancy would never dream of writing such nonsense in fiction.
Posted by: True German Ally   2003-9-6 10:10:38 PM  

#16  I can't tell if you're being serious or not
Not.

NO ONE BUT UNEDUCATED ... BELIEVE THEM
You'd be surprised. I know atleast one guy with an advanced degree in physics who eats this stuff up for breakfast... and likes it. I think the adjective you were looking for is 'psychopathic'.
Posted by: Rafael   2003-9-6 9:00:26 PM  

#15  I say we throw a nuclear warhead into the vortex then!
Posted by: Charles   2003-9-6 8:40:57 PM  

#14  TGA needs to hold on tight for the next week or so. The intellectual vacuum from this band of loonies may suck anybody or anything into the vortex!
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-9-6 8:02:32 PM  

#13  Please keep McDhimmi. Send us the young Frenchwoman with some wit. You know, open mindedness to the point where the cerebellum slides out is not liberalism, it is simple moonbatism. Just please keep her and demand that we release Mumia so he can kill some of your cops too.
Posted by: Craig   2003-9-6 8:02:02 PM  

#12  I can't tell if you're being serious or not, Rafael. But if you are being serious, then go back Leonardo,Donotelo, and Michelangilo in the sewers.
Posted by: Charles   2003-9-6 7:39:29 PM  

#11  Well of course she had solid intelligence: why else would Bush happen to leave for Florida, on that day? Why did he choose that particular day, huh? What about the 4000 Jews that didn't show up to work at the WTC that same day? Who told them? Why did the ambulance carrying Princess Diana take one hour to reach the hospital? oh wait, wrong conspiracy
Posted by: Rafael   2003-9-6 7:30:19 PM  

#10  I only wish the U.S. had the same kind of solid intelligence that Ruppert, McKinney, and Levis seem to have. Too bad McKinney was thrown out by her state. Maybe she should join the ranks of the Dems running to be prez? FYI kids, this is what happens when you only take half of your medication.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)   2003-9-6 4:24:43 PM  

#9  Bush should sue for slander.
Posted by: Rafael   2003-9-6 4:05:35 PM  

#8  In case anybody's been wondering what Cynthia's been up to lately, it appears she's gone Ivy League...

Former Congress member Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.), who gained national attention for her opposition to the war in Iraq and strident criticisms of the Bush administration, will visit Cornell for a few weeks a year for the next three years as a Frank H.T. Rhodes Class of '56 Professor. A committee of 13 faculty members and deans representing a broad range of disciplines and interests approved her appointment, which was first reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Thursday.In an e-mail, McKinney wrote that she is "exhilarated and thrilled to become a part of the Cornell and Ithaca families" and that she looks "forward to an exciting, invigorating and challenging semester." McKinney did not say when she would come to campus, but she is likely to visit for two or three weeks at a time to give public lectures and seminars and to attend classes.

Who's she shitting? She's just glad to have a job and found some liberal dupe to give her one. Cornell must be so proud.
Posted by: tu3031   2003-9-6 2:15:38 PM  

#7  Gee, Cynthia, maybe the innocent people didn't read the press release the terrorists issued the day before. Yeah, that's it.
I'm just surprised she's not blaming the Jooooooooos. After all, weren't they the ones she blamed when she didn't get re-elected?
As for the rest of the dorks attending this conference, may bees pee upon them all!
Posted by: Baba Yaga   2003-9-6 10:58:09 AM  

#6  ...Is there a way that we can prevent these malcontents from returning? ....

Feed their addresses to AQ? Soft Targets!

dorf
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-9-6 10:15:22 AM  

#5  Two questions:

Is there a way that we can prevent these malcontents from returning?

If so can we ofer free travel so that the conference will be better attended? (I would kick in a few bucks for the ex-poet laureat of NJ to go and not come back.)
Posted by: Super Hose   2003-9-6 9:29:05 AM  

#4  meeting of US and European activists will compile a list of questions and demands for documents to be submitted to the US and German governments as well as the European Union.

Demands? How about STFU?.....Christ almighty...
Posted by: Frank G   2003-9-6 9:14:25 AM  

#3  I'm an American in Europe (planning on returning ASAP). And, that must be the reason I don't like to hang out with other Americans in Europe. The ones that are here on purpose have a real screw loose. I met a friend who worked in Paris momentarily. He told me every American ex-pat he met living in Paris that had no plans of returning was either running from something or were real crackpots.
Posted by: George   2003-9-6 6:18:16 AM  

#2  Nicholas Levis has a site that says " AmericansinEurope".

I wonder why they're in Europe, and not yelling and holding meetings here in the US?

Could it be because NO ONE BUT UNEDUCATED AND POOR DIPSHITS LEFT WING EXTREMISTS BELIEVE THEM?!

I hope they stay in Europe. They admire them so much, let them eat from the 'prosperious' crops.
Posted by: Charles   2003-9-6 3:04:55 AM  

#1  If we didn't know just how pathetic Cynthia McKinney was before then at least we do now.

I wonder how much she's getting paid to speak? Cashing in on those 9-11 victims.. cha-ching!
Posted by: g wiz   2003-9-6 2:52:21 AM  

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