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| Jews to be Sued for Historical Plundering? |
| 2003-09-11 |
| CAIRO (Reuters) - An Egyptian lawyer said Wednesday he was planning to sue the world’s Jews for "plundering" gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt thousands of years ago, based on information in the Bible. "Lets give the PA and The International Nabil Hilmi, dean of the law faculty at Egypt’s al-Zaqaziq University, said the legal basis for the case was under study by a group of lawyers in Egypt and Europe. You-Rope. Of course. "This is serious, and should not be misread as being political against any race. We are just investigating if a debt is owed," Hilmi told Reuters in a telephone interview. Then his lips fell off The relevant passage from the Bible, Exodus 12 verses 35 to 36 reads: "The Israelites had done as Moses told them; they had asked the Egyptians for jewelry of silver and gold, and for clothing. ... And so they plundered the Egyptians." This translation is in the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible. Wait a minute; isn’t it a crime to treat the Bible as fact down there? Some Jewish commentators say that while the Biblical passage may be fact, the Hebrews were enslaved by the Egyptians and therefore had a right to claim compensation for wages. Sauce for the goose
"Hilmi’s assertion that the Hebrew Bible is fact has given Israel and Jews the world over a reason to rejoice. He has opened the door for all Jews to sue Egypt for over 400 years of slavery," writer Beth Goodman told Reuters. If he wins Tareq Zaghoul, a lawyer at the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights in Cairo, said it would be difficult to prove historical fact in the passage that would stand up in court. Hilmi’s more likely to get stoned to death "This needs historical documents and evidence to back it up. It is rather far-fetched," he said. "But the idea has merit" Hilmi said Egyptian and European historical and religious experts were trying to establish if the biblical passage could be taken as fact, and hence form the basis for a lawsuit. U bet the EUnuchs jumped at the chance. He said the argument that Jews could sue Egypt for enslaving them was also being studied by experts. "Can they or can’t they?" Hilmi gave no details of which court he planned to file the case in or whether he thought such a case would be exempt from the sort of statute of limitations that in many countries rules out legal cases after a certain period of time. The statute of limitations. He also declined to put a value on the goods "plundered." If Hilmi wins, the result will be an uncloseable Pandora’s Box |
| Posted by:Katz |
| #17 Zero brain x Zero brain= Radical Muslim Lawyer. " We defend you, and if you use we'll proclaim Jihad! " |
| Posted by: Charles 2003-9-11 9:21:15 PM |
| #16 I think this is just a cunning plan to remind the world that the Arabs "introduced" the zero (actually the Maya and the Hindu used it way before). Now multiply zero brain by zero brain... |
| Posted by: True German Ally 2003-9-11 7:11:41 PM |
| #15 Muslims AND lawyers?! Dear God, somebody start shooting before they inter-breed! ^_^ |
| Posted by: Ed Becerra 2003-9-11 6:07:27 PM |
| #14 What a combination! Muslims and trial lawyers! Shoot on sight, with very heavy weapons. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2003-9-11 3:03:42 PM |
| #13 What a combination! Muslims and trial lawyers! |
| Posted by: Greg 2003-9-11 2:50:30 PM |
| #12 I remember some talk show host said, Reparations....Rape-a-Nation |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2003-9-11 2:42:14 PM |
| #11 Perhaps the Egyptian can ask recompensation for the death of the firstborn instead? God needs a lawyer. ^_^ |
| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2003-9-11 2:35:15 PM |
| #10 *random ramble* Not sure if the 430 years figure is accurate - if I remember correctly Jews originally came voluntarily to Egypt, invited by Joseph and his family, and it was only halfway through that the Egyptian dynasty changed and Jews were enslaved by the new rulers. So, probably 200 years or something? Or less. I think some people called the "Hyksos" were also involved according to this theory. Hyksos were invaders of Egypt -- if the Hebrews (also foreigners) had thrived under the Hyksos rule, then the new native Egyptian dynasty (after the uprising that overthrew the Hyksos) would have probably despised them alongside their former masters. For this theory to hold, btw, the Exodus would need to have occured not during Ramses II's reign (as generally seen in films, without biblical support however) but a whole dynasty earlier. */random ramble* |
| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2003-9-11 2:33:52 PM |
| #9 Himli must have been reading about the Reperations Movement here and thought it was a good idea. |
| Posted by: Charles 2003-9-11 2:33:47 PM |
| #8 Ever wonder why "Slav" and "slave" have the same root? As a person of Slav origin, pretty much everybody owes me money. The Turks, the Avars(Chechens) Mongols, Germans , anybody that supported Communism the Egyptians (well the decendants of the Mameluke sultans anyway.) as well as the descendants of the rulers of El-Andalus. SHOW...ME...THE...MONEY!!!! |
| Posted by: Dushan 2003-9-11 2:01:36 PM |
| #7 They can't do interest. I think that Prophet guy calls it usury. Plus you have to be able to do math above fingers and toes, so that's strike two. And fuck them makes strike three. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-9-11 2:01:15 PM |
| #6 Details of the Egyptian suit filed in Switzerland against the Jews were revealed today:
It may not be large enough to offset the claim for 430 years of forced labor by the 600,000 Jews they are confirming with this suit they enslaved. In addition the courts may doubt the notion that the freed slaves did indeed steal anything as that remains unproven. Labor rates in Egypt 6000 years ago were about of 1 ounce of gold per year... multiplied by the man/years worked that comes out to 8,100 tons of gold... when you deduct the 300 owed at the time of the liberation that still leaves a debt of 7,800 tons ( or about 27 times the Egyptian claim ) multiplied by 5,748 years of interest ( at 6% ) and corrected for the interest due the 430 years enslaved comes to about...
But to help the Egyptians who apparently have difficulty counting that high... "the debt is very large" ...though I'm sure "the debt can be rescheduled over 1,000 years, with the addition of the cumulative interest during that period." |
| Posted by: DANEgerus 2003-9-11 1:53:07 PM |
| #5 Yosemite Sam - Get in line, buddy. Them there |
| Posted by: Laurence of the Rats 2003-9-11 12:54:23 PM |
| #4 So the undeniable truth is in the bible? The Quran is a lie? That'll be a pyrrhic victory |
| Posted by: Frank G 2003-9-11 12:36:47 PM |
| #3 I want to sue Italy for the Romans using Hun Slaves |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2003-9-11 12:31:58 PM |
| #2 Hey, don't laugh, it's given me an idea. You see I had an ex-wife that plundered my "historical" resourses every payday. "...Hello, get me Johnny Cochran!" |
| Posted by: Paul 2003-9-11 12:31:34 PM |
| #1 Further proof that the Arab world is simply an insane asylum. |
| Posted by: RLS 2003-9-11 12:26:20 PM |