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Middle East
Arafish say Israel has right to coexist
2003-11-12
EFL & Texture
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat called on Wednesday for an end to three years of violence, saying that Israel has a right to live in peace as his legislature prepared to approve the new Palestinian Cabinet.
As he spoke a wink was detected. It has yet to be determined if this was a result of his recent stroke he recently suffered.
PALESTINIAN PRIME PUPPET MINISTER Ahmed Qurei also called for an immediate and comprehensive cease-fire with Israel and a return to peace talks based on President Bush’s vision for two states.
And then his lips fell off.
“Our fate is to push all Israeli’s off the map live together on this land for us and our dreams, for our sons and grandsons ... instead of violence and terrorism,” Qurei said. “The Israeli government says and spreads lies that we don’t want peace,” he said. “I want to talk here to the Israeli people to say in public and in Arabic that this is not true.”

Arafat began his speech with a scathing attack on Israel.
Hmm, nothing starts off a good cease fire like some good old school hate filled rhetoric.
He harshly criticized Israel’s targeted killings of Palestinian militant terrorists leaders, Jewish settlements and an Israeli security barrier being built in the West Bank. “The goal of the Israeli government from behind this war ... is not hidden from the world,” Arafat said. “It is a dangerous goal of preventing our people from blowing up innocent people enjoying a slice of pizza their land, their rights and an independent state.” He said the dozens of Palestinian attacks against Israeli civilians over the past three years were in response to the things we teach our children Israeli military aggression against Palestinians.

Nonetheless, the Palestinian leader said the violence must end.
Read: All of the foriegn aid my money is now hidden in Europe and there is not much capital left for funding my homegrown nut cases.
“Instead of total destruction of our people and land, the time has come between us and you Israelis, and listen to me Israelis, to get out of this cycle of destructive war,” Arafat said.
Translation: Just wait until the next series of explosions!
Also keep in mind that Israel's quit screwing around with the little fish and they're going after the head cheeses, with Yasser publicly put on the list. When things get personally dangerous it must be time for a ceasefire...
Posted by:Dragon Fly

#10  IS, that's out of order. LH makes some good points (as is usual), either address them or ignore them, but don't use them to go postal.

Rantburg has some truly excellent insights here, and I've learnt loads from the people that post here such as Fred, OP, .com, JFM (even including when he rightly took me to task over a silly thing I said), LH. SH and many more. Don't go barmy ok?
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2003-11-12 9:13:19 PM  

#9  think we've got ourselves a troll here folks.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-11-12 5:31:48 PM  

#8  
Negotiate with a West Bank/Gaza native instead of the exiles
Negotiate what? Israel should simply lay down the law. If a PLO arab can show beyond doubt that they are a direct descendant of a displaced Israeli arab who did not take up arms against Israel at any time in the past, they can stay in Israel if they want. Anywhere in Israel, be it Tel Aviv, the west bank, or Gaza. Any part of Israel where land is available. The Israeli gov, without displacing anyone, should even help with the costs, as a very generous gesture. All of the rest of the PLO arabs, and it would be the majority of them, should be immediately repatriated with their CUNTries of origin, whether the home CUNTries want them back or not. For the PLO arabs who's homes were originally in the area that is now Israel, but have taken up arms against Israel, and lost their land as a result of that action, should be shipped off to Jordan.
Posted by: ISLAM SUCKS   2003-11-12 4:32:39 PM  

#7  Re comments:
Israel has right to live in security, fate to live together, etc.

What this crucially leaves is out is the following: fate is live together in TWO states (not just to live together in palestince) and Israel has the right to live as a JEWISH state - IE 2 states, one Pal and one Jewish, not 2 Pal states via the right of return.

But lets accept for the moment that the Pals wont give up the Right of Return outside of a final agreement, so this is the best they can do. Still its words. What is required is not words but actions. Querie has given in to Arafat on control of interior - he has proved weaker than Abbas, who at least resigned rather than go along with Arafat. So know arafat has COMPLETE control of Pal forces. Its up to HIM to disarm Hamas (which i doubt he will do) or face the consequences.

Now on Sharon - he seems to be making gestures and concessions toward Qurei, who is CLEARLY unwilling to stand up to Arafat. If these make sense at all, wouldnt they have made more sense for Abbas, who, though too weak, was tougher than Qurei?

Time to look past old Fatah leaders? Negotiate with a West Bank/Gaza native instead of the exiles - Bargouti, Dahlan, etc. But to pull that off major concessions might be needed. Will Sharon do that? OTOH can Labor, which would make concessions, manage to stick to a boycott of Arafat?
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-11-12 2:02:34 PM  

#6  Groundhog Day
Posted by: Matt   2003-11-12 11:20:25 AM  

#5  Too little, too late. Kill them all.
Posted by: mojo   2003-11-12 10:54:13 AM  

#4  
Our fate is to live together on this land

No it isn't. Not after the PLO arab attempted Genocide. Now the PLO arab fate is to leave all of Israel, and return to egypt, jordan, syria, and lebanon, or what ever genocidal arab CUNTry they come from.
Posted by: ISLAM SUCKS   2003-11-12 10:39:46 AM  

#3  Arafart and Korei can demonstrate that they're serious - by dismantling Hamas and IJ (which incidentally is a condition of GWB's "roadmap"). While they're at it, they can disband Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, too.

(Note: holding one's breath is not advisable here)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-11-12 10:24:24 AM  

#2  Everything Yasshole says is a lie. He just wants a break to recruite and re-supply.
Posted by: Spot   2003-11-12 9:02:09 AM  

#1  Another Transalation: Out of Boomers, be back in a month.
Posted by: Charles   2003-11-12 8:46:57 AM  

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