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Europe
Shuffle those deck chairs!
2003-12-12
Constitution Deadlock Plunges EU Summit Into Gloom
(EFL)
The European Union’s landmark summit to agree a first constitution was plunged into gloom almost as soon as it began Friday as leaders stood their ground in a bitter battle over their nations’ voting rights. A last-ditch meeting between British Prime Minister Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder to seek a way out of the impasse brought "no breakthrough, no real movement," diplomats said. "The positions are a long, long way apart," Blair told reporters. "It is important to try and get an agreement. It may well not be possible."
We can only hope...
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who as EU president for the past six months has struggled to steer the 25 bickering present and future member states to agreement on the historic draft treaty, conceded that the deadlock over power stakes in an enlarged union could sink the whole project. "The voting system is the obstacle that can block the whole agreement, and that is a pity," he told reporters. The stand-off pitting France and Germany on one side and Spain and Poland on the other could drag the two-day meeting into Saturday night, but Berlusconi said the leaders had set themselves a deadline of Sunday morning to get a deal.
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Posted by:mojo

#6  Well, the question is, what the *&$% is the EU supposed to be? Is it supposed to be
A) Some useless idiot thing like the UN?
B) A purposeful confederation of entities jealous of their soveriegnty?
C) a clumsy try by Germany and France to regain the prestige they frittered away in the last century, spilling the blood of millions in the process, and do it with OPM this time?

A) Why not just adopt the UN charter. No good?
B) Well, there's three straightforward ways to design a voting system:
1) n votes per entity. No. Unacceptable to us big boys.
2) n votes per capita. No. Unacceptable to us little boys.
3) Both at once, and two Houses. Not for us. Who's ever gotten anything that complicated to work. What? Where? Since when? Oh. But they're just a bunch of cowboys.
C) Why bother? Let them tote their own damned freight.

Who wrote that thing they're wrangling about, anyway? Valery who? Where's he from? That'd be a clue.
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds)   2003-12-12 9:23:01 PM  

#5  P433r teh United Europa!
Posted by: 4thInfVet   2003-12-12 9:17:17 PM  

#4  Poland and Spain aren't "smaller countries", dudes. They are honking big ones. Their problem lies in that though they don't have as big a population as France, Italy, or Britain they want pretty much the same voting rights.

This ambition sets them apart from larger *and* smaller countries alike.

The problems arose with ridiculous voting seats arrangments of treaties past -- EU is now just reaping the whirlwind that was sown in carelessness some time ago. One thing does become evident though - that we should have ratified the constitution before signing in more members.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2003-12-12 7:10:26 PM  

#3  Poland and Spain would have 'em by the short ones if either Chirac or Shroeder had any honor and would be embarrassed by caught red-handed trying to change the rules after the fact, as they are doing. But they don't.

"Break a deal: face the wheel."
Posted by: ,comma   2003-12-12 6:09:11 PM  

#2  I Fisked this earlier today. What a clusterfuck this whole pheeeEU project is. It seems designed purposely to subjugate smaller countries to the wills of France the larger countries. Sick fuckin' joke, IMO.
Posted by: Raj   2003-12-12 5:56:43 PM  

#1  Of course, this agreement will have no legitimacy unless the U.N. approves it, right???
Posted by: snellenr   2003-12-12 5:56:00 PM  

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