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| Pope breaks loose from his PC Handlers... |
| 2003-12-18 |
| EFL, a bunch Here’s some happy news this Christmas season, an unexpected gift for those who have seen and admired Mel Gibson’s controversial movie, "The Passion," and wish to support it. The film has a new admirer, and he is a person of some influence. He is in fact the head of the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church. John Paul II, who even with the challenges of his current illness has more good sense than many of his Read the article and contrast that with the gutless stand the American Cardinal the author talked to. Producer Steve McEveety, who had flown to Rome Looks like the Old Guy isnt done yet - at least he slipped the leash this time! Afterwards, Msgr. Dziwisz gave Mr. McEveety the pope’s reaction. The pope found it very powerful, and approved of it. Mr. McEveety was delighted. Msgr. Dziwisz added that the pope said to him, as the film neared its end, five words that he wished to pass on: "It is as it was." What eloquence! That ought to shut up the nattering fearful shiftless cringers in the Church (especially the US Bishops who tried to do a hatchet job). Read the linked article for more detail and some very on-target commentary regarding Cardinal Martino |
| Posted by:OldSpook |
| #10 How the hell does he know? Don't want to waste bandwidth explaining. If you gotta ask, you'd never understand anyway. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2003-12-18 9:37:07 PM |
| #9 How the Hell does he know? He read the book... |
| Posted by: Tobacconist 2003-12-18 1:43:49 PM |
| #8 How the hell does he know? The Pope is old. Really, really REALLY old... |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2003-12-18 1:01:49 PM |
| #7 "Afterwards, Msgr. Dziwisz gave Mr. McEveety the pope’s reaction. The pope found it very powerful, and approved of it. Mr. McEveety was delighted. Msgr. Dziwisz added that the pope said to him, as the film neared its end, five words that he wished to pass on: "It is as it was." " How the hell does he know? |
| Posted by: Colin MacDougall 2003-12-18 11:45:57 AM |
| #6 I don't think we want the Pope calling political shots . . . The Church militant, regardless of sect, is called to be a moral force of good in the world -- not to lift up or cast down political forces (be they good or evil). Granted, no sect ever stays perfectly, politically neutral, but do we really want religious leaders shaping government? Isn't that the objection to cultural catholics, or cultural potestants, or cultural jews claiming the moral high ground and calling it PC? Of course, it is a fine line. We must have freedom of religion, NOT freedom FROM religion, and true democratic constitutional republics based on natural law only function well when the populace is moral. |
| Posted by: cingold 2003-12-18 10:40:44 AM |
| #5 Dar Im not sure its stands for everything Hollywood's against, and wont be sure until people I trust have seen it. Folks in Hollywood have been apologists for Saddam and others who blame everything bad in the world on the Jews. IF - I repeat IF - it turns out that this movie blames the crucifixion on the Jews, following pre-Vatican II approach, then I will conclude it has much in common with the folk that Hollywood is apologetic for, even if Hollywood doesnt realize it. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2003-12-18 10:39:26 AM |
| #4 Pope's gone wild! |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2003-12-18 10:07:07 AM |
| #3 LH--Nice touch. I have to agree. While Mel Gibson took a brave stand in making this movie, which stands for everything Hollywood is against, there are many brave men willing to sacrifice much more to make the world a better and safer place, and the Pope can't be bothered to thank them. |
| Posted by: Dar 2003-12-18 9:46:43 AM |
| #2 if the pope's so "un-PC" let him endorse the US position in Iraq. Feh. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2003-12-18 9:02:29 AM |
| #1 Seems the Pope slipped this one under his handlers' radar, and even as old and worn as he is, he still has the guts to state the truth in spite of the Vatican sycophants that try to handle everything in such a PC manner - would that we had him young again and able to clean house there... |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2003-12-18 3:08:28 AM |