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Israel-Palestine
Paleos Stage Show Trial; USA Not Buying It
2004-02-10
From DEBKA
How stupid must the paleos think the west to be, if they believe such an obvious charade would have any credibility. Oh. I forgot. This kangaroo court will have credibility. Never mind.
US ambassador to Israel Dan Kurtzer sharply criticized the Palestinians trial that opened in the Gaza Strip Saturday, February 7, of four men accused of murdering three CIA agents in a roadside bombing last October. He said the trial before a military court should not be held behind closed doors, Washington should have been told in advance and the charge sheet should be tougher – not merely manslaughter but first degree murder.
One week ago they were "investigating." After the US snarls, not only do they have the culprits but they put ’em on trial! Now THAT’S justice for ya! The west could learn a thing or two from dem paleos!
The four accused are the aptly named Naeem Deeb Abu Fool, Basheer Abu Laban, Mohammed Dosouki Asaliyye and Ahmed Abdel Fattah Safi. Their trial was adjourned until February 29. Since the attack, US officials have been ordered to stop traveling to the Gaza Strip, which has seriously affected aid work. Last week, after accusing the Palestinian Authority of failing to track the killers and hand them over, the US embassy in Tel Aviv offered a $5 m reward for information leading to their apprehension. Jibril Rajoub, a senior adviser to Yasser Arafat, accused Washington of subjecting the Palestinians to blackmail over the affair.
"How DARE Washington demand justice and accountability! What’s this world coming to!?" he was quoted as saying ;o)
DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that two of the suspects were arrested on the day the US convoy was blown up on October 15 last year; the second pair were picked up on December 20. Their arrest was ordered by Muhammed al Hindi, chief of the Palestinian general intelligence service on the Gaza Strip. Their show trial hurriedly staged in the face of increasingly angry demands from Washington for their handover. The four suspects clearly appeared confused and terrified in court.
bet they would have preferred an Israeli court! DEBKAfile’s sources report that this is not surprising since in actual fact none of the four were involved in the murder of the three American agents. They were not even accused of the crime. The charge sheet describes them as planting roadside bombs on a main highway leading into the Gaza Strip from the Erez crossing point with Israel, the route followed by the American convoy. The Americans watching the case know the four have been set up. Laying roadside bombs is what they do normally, but the bombing of the American convoy was not the work of these pawns small fry. Neither are they members of any Palestinian security force, which means that a military tribunal was not competent to try them.
where, exactly, is the paleo "military" anyway?!?
The real perpetrators of the attack, as we reported last October 18, were Yasser Zannoon and Mohammad al-Baba, chiefs of the Khan Younes militia in the southern Gaza Strip which is run jointly by Jemal Sema Dana, head of the Popular Resistance Committees, and Rashid Abu Shbak, acting head of the Palestinian Preventive Security Service in the Gaza Strip. Although in an advanced state of disintegration, the Palestinian Authority is still prepared to do anything to fight terror. Faced with a secret cutoff of American aid to Palestinian institutions as long as the real killers are not handed over, the PA is nonetheless willing to go the lengths of staging a mock trial with fake suspects in order to protect the real murderers of the three CIA agents.
I think the world has been willing to believe anything the paleos say for so long that they think they can get away with anyting, including this hokum.
Posted by:PlanetDan

#31  Whew..... That was fun today!
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2004-2-10 10:21:07 PM  

#30  Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird... it's a plane...it's...ANTIWAR!
Posted by: tu3031   2004-2-10 8:45:56 PM  

#29  Why you hate me, I love a food fight.
Posted by: AntiPasto   2004-2-10 6:33:07 PM  

#28  I seem to remember that Christ got cranky with some money changers at the Temple. He tied knots in a rope, turned over their tables and flogged them off the premises.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2004-2-10 3:25:56 PM  

#27  Two points :
- you may like trolls, but confronted to this particular kind of people (not the aggressive, flame-provoking type) on the web as in real life, I am DISGUTED by their self-righteousness. Antiwar, you're so full of your superiority, so certain of being on the *good* side, it makes me wanna puke. What's your point, anyway? "What are you trying to do, be funny? This is serious, we must be prepared for anything, anything."
- I fully intent on remaining anonymous. No name-swap for me, thanks you.
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-10 3:20:08 PM  

#26  Bush, Blair,Howard lied about Saddam's wmd and terrorist connections

Chucklehead, you forgot to list Clinton, Albright, Kerry, Daschle, Germany, France, Russia, the UN and a host of other nimrods who "lied" as well.

While you are scratching your ass in confusion, why don't you look up Operation Desert Fox and who ordered it.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2004-2-10 3:15:01 PM  

#25  "CONVICTION Bush, Blair,Howard lied about Saddam's wmd and terrorist connections."

Actually there has been documented proof of terrorist connections. You just ignore it because it doesn't fit your worldview.

"The invasion of Iraq was a warcrime."

Ummm no. War in itself is not a "warcrime". Violations of the geneva convention that occur during war could be considered warcrimes... but not the concept of war itself.

"Would Jesus have fought in a war i don't think so. "

BWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHA LMAO! Now that was funny!
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American   2004-2-10 3:05:01 PM  

#24  CONVICTION Bush, Blair,Howard lied about Saddam's wmd and terrorist connections. The invasion of Iraq was a warcrime.If war is the answer its a stupid question. Would Jesus have fought in a war i don't think so.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-2-10 2:47:28 PM  

#23  So, Antiwar, would you have protested World War 2? Perhaps the Civil War? Simple questions, even a simple mind like yours should be able to answer them.

At what cost is peace preferable? Obviously over 1 million people dead at the hands of Saddam is not enough to 'disturb the peace', so how many dead innocents would it take for you to go to war to stop the killing? 2 million? 3? Or, does it not matter, Saddam was the 'rightful' ruler of a sovereign nation, if he wants to slaughter millions of brown people so what? Peace at any costs! Idiot.
Posted by: Swiggles   2004-2-10 2:40:31 PM  

#22  I actually respect the anti-war position. For example, T.H. White was a pacifist and struggled his who life to find an alternative. I think we all respect the Amish, who are anti-war and actually live their convictions. We don't know for a fact, that ANTIWAR isn't Amish; we only assume that ANTIWAR drives a gasoline powered automobile and doesn't eat, exclusively the produce, that he/she grows with his/her own hands.

I, myself am a service acedemy graduate that is ant-war in amny cases. I'm not anti-war to the extent that I bemoan the fate of viruses attacked preemptively by my own white-bloodcells.

I suggest that we all ANTIWAR to explain his or her convictions.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-2-10 2:32:01 PM  

#21  Classic tragic first-stage idealism. After 20-30 years of real life he/she will make a fine conservative.
Posted by: NotThatAnon   2004-2-10 2:30:18 PM  

#20  Cry havoc and let slip the blogs of war!!!!!

(I know it came from someone else but it seemed appropriate just then)
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2004-2-10 2:15:30 PM  

#19  I know Robin. Get ready, we're going to have to use logic.
Posted by: Charles   2004-2-10 1:53:15 PM  

#18   I have to admit, this guy does make things a little more entertaining.
Posted by: Lil Dhimmi   2004-2-10 1:51:45 PM  

#17  "..I love the smell of Napalm in the morning"
Posted by: dataman1   2004-2-10 1:51:05 PM  

#16  Holy Quakers Batman! It's ANTIWAR and his band of appeasers.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2004-2-10 1:48:46 PM  

#15  oooo I'm impressed....a name. I give him a 4.8 on a scale 10. Lack of spittle and no reference to the running dog american capitalist pigs brings the entire show down a few notches ;)
Posted by: Valentine   2004-2-10 1:42:52 PM  

#14  I was ANONYMOUS now I have a name its ANTIWAR.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-2-10 1:36:53 PM  

#13  Anon, we know you're not an Arab. I peg you for a liberal Home Economics professor at an Ivy League School, that has come Rantburg to see whether your master's thesis will be well accepted in academia. If you are looking for affirmation, visit Movingon or DU, then bring a well reasoned argument based on fact... unless you like being today's buffoon piñata to be beaten about for our entertainment.
Please, pick a some kind of name; moron tetherball is much more fun when we can identify each shitstick individually. And don't get emotional on us, we're sensitive people that are highly susceptible ad hominen arguments.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-2-10 1:28:16 PM  

#12  This troll can't be real. Come on guys, somebody is having a laugh. Maybe it's Frank J., lol.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2004-2-10 12:54:01 PM  

#11  Where ever does it say I approve of anyone bombing. No one should whether they be American Palestinian or whatever. Oh by the way Im not an arab.
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-10 12:49:13 PM  

#10   It is a Zionist Entity

the FIRST thing you ought to get through your pin head is the fact that it is the legitimate state of Israel. Reality seems to be a difficult concept for arabs.

once you acknowledge that, understand that Israel has no intention of going away. And in fact, it won't ever, especially at the hands of any arab factions.

next:

The US bombs people all the time!!!

apparently you're saying it's alright for paleos to commit suicide bombings because the US does it. Which means you're saying it's ok for the US to do it. And therefore, for Israel to do it. So thanks for agreeing that Israel's strategy of going after, and killing terrorists is appropriate!!!! I agree!!!


Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-2-10 12:40:20 PM  

#9  Nothing like seeing a tow missile incinerate a T-72 a klick away...

Or, how about Lockheed's Javelin?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-2-10 12:39:00 PM  

#8  Anon,
You don't understand the Palestinians kill irrationally. In this case, they blew up three Americans that were there to help them. In Iraq the Islamists are currently blowing up their own people.
We're not psychopaths like them because we just kill for oil. When we stick to economic gain and don't worry about helping people than our corporate controllers are happy and when master is happy, then we are happy.
If you look carefully for the economic gain in invading Afghanistan, helping the government of the Philipines and in GHWB's first mission to Somalia the underlying economic gain is more subtle. Go check out the Democratic Underground, we just deal with events at a superficial level. They are much more nuanced.
If you get confused there, reference the closet-wall writings of your dog.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-2-10 12:38:29 PM  

#7  It is a Zionist Entity.War only makes things worse. Look at Iraq ever since the warcriminal Bush and his coalition forces invaded and like a serpent made its way through Iraq it has been like a dog's breakfast over there.
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-10 12:29:03 PM  

#6  "The US bombs people all the time!!! Whole nations! maybe you shuold think about that. Violent acts and this goes for everyone is not the answer to any problem."

-I know dude; except for stopping Hitler, Facism, slavery, despotism, and ethnic cleansing - war never solves a thing! You're so right dude.

However, MOABs, JDAMs, Thomas-Hawks, Cruise's, - give me a chubby. Nothing like seeing a tow missile incinerate a T-72 a klick away.....f*cking awesome.
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-2-10 12:20:11 PM  

#5  US Govt in criminal league with the zionist entity..

A sure sign of mental imbalance, Palestinian style, is the mention of a "Zionist entity" or a "ZOG".

Care to try again?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-2-10 12:19:47 PM  

#4  
#1: You're arguing the general when we're discussing the specific. The general has nothing to do with this particular specific. Paleostinians might not be the only ones who ever commit violence, but this particular violence was committed by Paleostinians and directed against Americans.

Generalized ranting about the depravity of the U.S. and Israel only makes you look foolish. But I guess you're used to that by now.
Posted by: Fred   2004-2-10 11:59:35 AM  

#3  (YAWN) 1 Corinthians 13
11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

Now is the time.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2004-2-10 10:29:38 AM  

#2  Trolls....love em or bomb em! Howard is not having a good day.
Posted by: john   2004-2-10 10:18:37 AM  

#1  The US bombs people all the time!!! Whole nations! maybe you shuold think about that. Violent acts and this goes for everyone is not the answer to any problem. US Govt in criminal league with the zionist entity so in their eyes only palestinians commit violence
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-10 9:14:38 AM  

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