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Home Front: WoT
Cuba? It was great, say boys freed from US prison camp
2004-03-06
Big EFL, very long but worthwhile.
Asadullah strives to make his point, switching to English lest there be any mistaking him. "I am lucky I went there, and now I miss it. Cuba was great," said the 14-year-old, knotting his brow in the effort to make sure he is understood. Not that Asadullah saw much of the Caribbean island. During his 14-month stay, he went to the beach only a couple of times - a shame, as he loved to snorkel. And though he learned a few words of Spanish, Asadullah had zero contact with the locals. He spent a typical day watching movies, going to class and playing football. He was fascinated to learn about the solar system, and now enjoys reciting the names of the planets, starting with Earth. Less diverting were the twice-monthly interrogations about his knowledge of al-Qaida and the Taliban. But, as Asadullah's answer was always the same - "I don't know anything about these people" - these sessions were merely a bore: an inevitably tedious consequence, Asadullah suggests with a shrug, of being held captive in Guantanamo Bay.

On January 29, Asadullah and two other juvenile prisoners were returned home to Afghanistan. The three boys are not sure of their ages. But, according to the estimate of the Red Cross, Asadullah is the youngest, aged 12 at the time of his arrest. The second youngest, Naqibullah, was arrested with him, aged perhaps 13, while the third boy, Mohammed Ismail, was a child at the time of his separate arrest, but probably isn't now. Tracked down to his remote village in south-eastern Afghanistan, Naqibullah has memories of Guantanamo that are almost identical to Asadullah's. Prison life was good, he said shyly, nervous to be receiving a foreigner to his family's mud-fortress home. The food in the camp was delicious, the teaching was excellent, and his warders were kind. "Americans are good people, they were always friendly, I don't have anything against them," he said. "If my father didn't need me, I would want to live in America."
And all along I thought it was a concentration camp!
Asadullah is even more sure of this. "Americans are great people, better than anyone else," he said, when found at his elder brother's tiny fruit and nut shop in a muddy backstreet of Kabul. "Americans are polite and friendly when you speak to them. They are not rude like Afghans. If I could be anywhere, I would be in America. I would like to be a doctor, an engineer — or an American soldier."
Heck yes. Bring him back, get him to a good high school in the South, let him join up. Wonder if .com would consider being a foster dad?
This might seem to jar with the prevailing opinion of Guantanamo among human rights groups. An American jail on foreign soil, Guantanamo was designed, according to Amnesty International, to deny prisoners "many of their most basic rights", which in America would include special provision for the "speedy trial" of juveniles. But, seized in the remotest wilds of violent Afghanistan, the boys knew practically nothing of their rights, and expected less.
Much more on the contrast on life in his village in eastern Afghanistan versus Gitmo at the link. Gitmo is way better.
Posted by:Steve White

#18  The problem is far from AI. All this information is out in the open now. So, when was the last time you saw Walter Duranty Dan Rather talk about this for more than 30 seconds? Or that White House mouthpiece, the New York Times for more than one day? That woman who wanted to play in the U. S. Open got more page 1 column inches than Kimmy's Kindergartens.
Posted by: Mr. Davis   2004-3-6 8:00:16 PM  

#17  Is that all you got,Aris?

If AI really gave a damn the would be screaming from the roof tops,instead what do we hear whinning about Gitmo.
Posted by: Raptor   2004-3-6 5:35:35 PM  

#16  Aris

One thing is putting it on the website hiddeen under 20 layers of links and another one is amking fuss on it, campaigning, airing it on radio and the press.

AI is no longer AI.
Posted by: JFM   2004-3-6 5:34:07 PM  

#15  Aris, AI's a whore. The little attention they pay to real problems -- like North Korea -- is to provide themselves a figleaf for when they rake in their big dough by slamming the US. I'm a little surprised you fell for their BS.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-3-6 5:27:46 PM  

#14  That was me in the post above.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-3-6 2:27:40 PM  

#13  What in the world makes you think that AI is "mum about the forced abortions, torture, starvation, and beatings in North Korea"?

Why don't you just search for "North Korea" in AI's site?

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA240022003

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Amnesty International's long-standing concerns about human rights violations in North Korea include the use of torture and the death penalty, arbitrary detention and imprisonment, inhumane prison conditions and the near-total suppression of fundamental freedoms, including freedom of expression and movement.

While these concerns are long-standing, in recent years many human rights abuses in North Korea have been linked directly or indirectly to the famine and acute food shortages which have affected the country since the mid-1990s. These have led to widespread malnutrition among the population and to the movement of hundreds of thousands of people in search of food - some across the border with China - many of whom have become the victims of human rights violations as a result of their search for food and survival.
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Posted by: Anonymous   2004-3-6 2:26:50 PM  

#12  So.. let me get this stright. AI is bitching because prisioners in Guamto get free snokeling lessons, very good food, education, exercise, etc....

but is mum about the forced abortions, torture, starvation, and beatings in North Korea....

Does anyone else see a problem here? Helllooo?

BTW: This is how we will win the war on terror - by being plain good decent people - even to our enemies (and carrying a lot of very powerful weapondry...).
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-3-6 11:45:09 AM  

#11  USMC have always been nice to kids, it's hardwired.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-3-6 11:31:51 AM  

#10  phil_b

Bantus is a linguistic and ethnic group not a generic term. As an example Tutsis are of the Nilotic group and have thin lips and noses, very different from the Bantus who have thick lips and noses. Rwandese Tutsis (And Hutus who are Bantu) speak KynyaRwanda who is of the Bantu group. Zulu language is from the Bantu group despite being spoken in South Africa.
Posted by: JFM   2004-3-6 11:16:44 AM  

#9  Dar, remember that I was the one that told Osama that he should build a mountain hideout. Caribbean Vacation HERE I COME!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-3-6 10:28:23 AM  

#8  Dar: LOL!
Posted by: Evert Visser   2004-3-6 9:56:38 AM  

#7  Dar: LOL!
Posted by: Evert Visser   2004-3-6 9:56:26 AM  

#6  Charles--Remember the time we met Osama at that barbecue in 2000? HINT: Work with me here, and soon we'll both be snorkelling in warm, Cuban waters!
Posted by: Dar   2004-3-6 9:29:45 AM  

#5  Mike K you are of course a typical representative of the racist blah! blah! very right wing conspiracy, and these bantu are in fact jooos in disguise.

BTW bantu is a generic term for a black resident of central and southern Africa. Its equivalent is calling a european a caucasian.
Posted by: phil_b   2004-3-6 9:21:13 AM  

#4  Snorkling? SNORKLING?! I'v never been snorkling and these kids get a free lesson?! If feel so depressed...
Posted by: Charles   2004-3-6 8:21:47 AM  

#3  ...We just recently picked up some new South Carolinians - about fifty Bantu tribesmen who have been run out of their homes due to the unending wars there. Literally no one else would take them, although lots of the Usual Suspects mouthed the Usual Platitudes. A group of folks in Columbia decided that enough was enough - bring 'em here. The community has supported this to the point where the daily paper here has been printing helpful Bantu words and phrases so people can help them out.
If this lad is what he claims to be, bring him AND his father here, and we'll treat him just as well. After six months here, he'll be as much an American as if he'd been born here.

Mike

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2004-3-6 6:09:47 AM  

#2  To cool for words, LOL.
Posted by: Evert Visser   2004-3-6 4:49:28 AM  

#1  bet Al Gaurian and the BBC won't report this
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K   2004-3-6 4:04:17 AM  

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