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| Israel-Palestine |
| Two paleos deaded; Film at eleven! |
| 2004-03-13 |
| Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot and killed two Palestinians in an off-limits military zone between Israel and the Gaza Strip on Saturday, Palestinian security sources and the military said. Soldiers guarding the militarized border zone shot two men crawling inside the prohibited area about 100 meters from the border fence which separates Gaza from the nearby Kibbutz of Nahal Oz, the army said. The pair were carrying two Kalashnikov assault rifles, 10 hand grenades and a pipe bomb and apparently were attempting to cross the fence to attack the farming community, the military said. In a statement faxed to The Associated Press in Gaza, the violent military wing of the radical Islamic group Hamas together with a smaller armed militant group said they dispatched the two men to the area and that they battled with soldiers before being shot dead. The two men were identified as Mohammed Haboush, 20, of Hamas and Saed Mraesh, 20, from a small Gaza militant group called the Ahmed Abu al-Resh Brigades. The Hamas statement said video footage showing a gun battle between the men and the soldiers would be released later. Palestinian militants have repeatedly approached the Gaza fence to clash with soldiers, attempt to cross into Israel and occasionally to observe and gather information on activity at military posts for future attacks. Note the phrasing here which studiously avoids stating the truth which is that the Gaza fence works and the paleos almost never get past it. |
| Posted by:Phil B |
| #34 The Roman name Palestine is derived from Phillistine, which in turn probably dates to neolithic times. Misha at the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler calls them Paleosimians, which I regard as a slur against our noble cousins, the great apes. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-3-13 11:12:24 PM |
| #33 I suppose we could also refer to them as Philistines. That's what it is in Arabic, isn't it? Filisti? |
| Posted by: Fred 2004-3-13 8:21:07 PM |
| #32 BH there is obviously such a thing as Palestinians whether you call them Arabs or Semites. They didn't exist until Isreal was established again as a nation. The area, at the time, was the British protectorate of Palestine. It wasn't until they were "kicked out" that the Paleostinians came into existence. Some have Sunni background, others have Shite, some may have Kurd, but they are NOT a nation. They considered themselves Arabs or Muslims, then the Jews came back and " We're the Paleostinians from the Bible! This is our land! " What a bunch of BS. |
| Posted by: Charles 2004-3-13 2:51:46 PM |
| #31 antiwar - apparently you are too stupid to notice the difference between B and BH. duuuhhhh...I'm ANTIWAR..according to the dead and dying dinosaurs of the 60's I'm cool. Long hair, rock and roll and eternal adolescence...be cool man. I'm the anti-war dude. |
| Posted by: B 2004-3-13 2:29:01 PM |
| #30 What happens if the paleo-murderers get fed to the piggies....like Bricktop did in the movie "Snatch"???? |
| Posted by: anymouse 2004-3-13 2:01:49 PM |
| #29 B Antiwar means against war therefore for peace,so you've embarrassed yourself there. Did you support the war in Iraq and if you did how are you for peace? Anti-war - you are just so stupid that I have to wonder if you drool on your keyboard. But I will give you a hint knowing full well that it clearly above your comprehension level to understand how being against war does not mean that you are for peace? If you are walking down the street and a woman is being raped - which of the following two people would you say promotes peace: 1. The person who walks on by and says, "she deserved it" 2. A person who, at great personal risk, fights the rapist off. You are a coward - plain and simple. You disgust me. |
| Posted by: B 2004-3-13 1:54:55 PM |
| #28 i just wish anti war would move to north korea with people who share his ideals. He seems to think torture,maiming,rape etc is okay and now Saddams gone what other options are open for him,syria or saudi would be ideal too |
| Posted by: Jon Shep U.K 2004-3-13 1:05:15 PM |
| #27 Would yawl please stop picking on AntiWar? I think she's precious and lends a certain panache to Rantburg. My question to AW is who do you the is more effective the tall guys on stilts or the guys in the turtle suits? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-3-13 12:49:13 PM |
| #26 #16. Phil, so ya still have that Little Red Book do ya? :) #17. And here're some thoughts from two other philosophers for Miss AW: We make war that we may live in peace. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC), Nichomachean Ethics Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) So being against war, AW, doesn't necessarily mean that the consequence will be peace. |
| Posted by: GK 2004-3-13 12:26:55 PM |
| #25 Just about anyone who has thought about it, and almost all who have had to participate in war would prefer it if wars did not happen. Fact is, there are some people who want to kill us because we're not their religion, don't have their political persuasions or they just hate us. Then you have a choice, fight or be killed. As to Iraq - I was very much for the war. I don't like the civilian casualties that occured, but they were unavoidable. Now Iraq has a chance to pull itself out of the morally bankrupt Arab mindset, and perhaps, just perhaps, be a true leader in that part of the world and act as a beacon for other people in that region. If you're truly anti-war, you'd better hope they do manage to do that. The US is putting a lot of political and financial capital into trying to make the Iraq experiment work. If it truly comes to pass that the Arab/Islamic mindset is not able to participate in the 21st century world, then all bets are off and sooner or later (after the 2nd 9/11 type attack, or 3rd or 4th) someone is going to give up on the situation and push the button. Guess what, it may not be the Americans who do it - the Russians and Chinese have plenty of WMDs they could use, and they're not squeamish about killing large numbers of people are they? It could even be the UK (one Trident could do it). As for the Paleos (yes, I have spelt that right), those 'people' have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and everytime I hear of one (or more) of these *kof* 'freedom fighters' biting the dust I feel that there is some justice in the World. |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2004-3-13 12:19:54 PM |
| #24 Antiwar is like most liberals/socialists/communists I debate on a daily basis. Absolute truth and evil are only figments of our imaginations. We make these concepts up in order to make living bearable in our foolish and childish worldview existance. Antiwar, I hope you fall to your knees and thank God many times a week for the US and it's current head of government (President Bush) with the moral clarity, unlike the demos Kerry, to fight evil where he finds it. One issue I take with Bush is his relunctance to name our enemy by name (Islam). As I read the other day, calling it a war on terrorism is like calling WWII a war on sneak attacks after Pearl Harbor. |
| Posted by: Constitutional Individualist 2004-3-13 12:15:08 PM |
| #23 Islam isn't a religion. It's a death cult. I don't respect Jim Jones. I don't respect David Koresh. And I don't respect Mohammed. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-3-13 12:08:07 PM |
| #22 think so, Kufr? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 12:07:29 PM |
| #21 B thank you for clearing that up you are still prejudiced though being anti-islamic. A persons religion shouldnt make you dislike them Christian Jew Muslim its all the same God. |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 12:05:41 PM |
| #20 No dear, I'm anti-Islamic. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-3-13 12:01:37 PM |
| #19 BH there is obviously such a thing as Palestinians whether you call them Arabs or Semites. You are Antisemitic. |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 12:00:05 PM |
| #18 Antiwar: It doesn't matter what they call them. They themselves prefer the fiction that they are "Palestinians". There's no such thing as a Palestinian. They are Arabs, the worthless dregs of a conquering horde that has since been pushed back. Call them the Bombanians if you want. It doesn't matter, and neither do they. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-3-13 11:53:18 AM |
| #17 B Antiwar means against war therefore for peace,so you've embarrassed yourself there. Did you support the war in Iraq and if you did how are you for peace? |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 11:49:30 AM |
| #16 As Chairman Mao might have said 'Peace comes out of the barrel of a gun.' |
| Posted by: Phil B 2004-3-13 11:18:39 AM |
| #15 we can't help it if you are too stupid to get it anti-war. We are for peace, so, unlike self-righteous sh*&^ such as yourself, we find the people who seek to blow up children to be repulsive. Just as we find idiots like you. Your support of them makes you repulsive. Do you get that? You blast off at parties and parks thinking everyone thinks you are so cool and hip to be anti-war, when, in reality, you are just anti-peace. At parks and parties we refrain from taking you on because you aren't worth the self-righteous verbal abuse that would ensue. Instead we just quietly think you are a callous, stupid jerk who cares more about politics than rape rooms, and the disco bombins of innocent children. Did you see the turn out in Spain today? Get a clue - you are the one out of the 20 who didn't show up. Loser. |
| Posted by: B 2004-3-13 11:06:36 AM |
| #14 Yup, Fred has really put together a nice site. Reminds me of a family reunion, with everybody shaking their heads at the stupid cousin. And I'm not a pigs swine. I like to eat pigs, rosted to perfection and covered in that special sweet syrup. Mmm, Miss Piglet... *drools* |
| Posted by: Charles 2004-3-13 10:58:25 AM |
| #13 And a reanimated Paleostinian is called a Frankenstinian. BTW Antiwar, there's lot's of stuff you only find on Rantburg... sniff... God Bless That Fred... |
| Posted by: Hyper 2004-3-13 10:30:21 AM |
| #12 nice? a culture that ululates and hands out candy in celebration on 9/11? That day cemented my disgust for the child-killing thugs, criminals, and wanna-be martyrs. Don't talk about Paleos and nice in the same sentence |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 10:29:13 AM |
| #11 It's balestinian, I get my spelling from H. Hasharewe's prenunciashun. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-3-13 10:23:55 AM |
| #10 Why is it that nobody owns a dictionary any more! Minor rant but I could forgive the Left lots of things but I will never forgive their corruption of the thing that makes communication between us all possible, words. We use Paleos which is an abbreviation of Paleostinians, to mean with considerable precision people who are members of a society that exhibits the properties of Ancient; prehistoric; Early; primitive. |
| Posted by: Phil B 2004-3-13 10:09:01 AM |
| #9 Thank you Frank for the info on that. Not very nice though is it? |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 10:06:40 AM |
| #8 paleo = prehistoric, which is the level their society has degenerated to |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 10:00:45 AM |
| #7 Frank you call me antiwhore which is the opposite of prostitute which is a compliment so thanks. Why is the spelling deliberate? |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 9:57:10 AM |
| #6 Charles, he called us a "pigs swine"! lol |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 9:50:55 AM |
| #5 Antiwhore, thanks for writing. The spelling is deliberate. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 9:49:39 AM |
| #4 You can call me Palestinian, you can call me Paleostinian, but when the IDF catches me crossing over from Gaza, just call me f*cked! |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-3-13 9:49:15 AM |
| #3 Frank and Charles you are the pigs swine to be exact. A question for the rest of you if anyone could be of any help,why do some of you spell Palestinian as Paleostinian, spelling error,alternative way,what? Have only noticed it on this site. |
| Posted by: Antiwar 2004-3-13 9:39:04 AM |
| #2 I still think they should have killed them with a "pig catapult" in the first place. |
| Posted by: Charles 2004-3-13 8:51:15 AM |
| #1 I'd suggest they take the weapons, cover the bodies in pig fat and leave em there in the no-man's land as a warning |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-13 8:40:56 AM |