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Russia
Ukraine officials: Hundreds of Soviet-era antimissiles missing
2004-03-30
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Several hundred decommissioned Soviet-built surface-to-air missiles are unaccounted for in Ukraine's military arsenal, the defense minister told a newspaper. Defense Minister Yevhen Marchuk, in an interview published in the newspaper Den, appeared to suggest the missiles may have been dismantled without proper accounting, rather than stolen or sold. "We are looking for several hundred missiles," Marchuk was quoted as saying in Thursday?s edition. "They have already been decommissioned, but we cannot find them". Marchuk didn't specify the types of missile.
SA-2's, SA-3's, that sort of missile wouldn't be much to worry about. Kind of hard to smuggle from place to place. SA-7's and SA-14's are a different story.
Defense Ministry spokesman Kostyantyn Khivrenko told The Associated Press that he was referring to S-75 air defense missiles ? also known in the West by the code-name SA-2. Marchuk said the Defense Ministry hadn't observed the accounting requirements established by law until last summer, an apparent jab at his predecessors.
Ukraine doesn't give me warm fuzzies when it comes to their efficiency. But I'm not particularly worried about surprise attacks by terrs armed with 30-year-old SA-2s...
Hundreds of such missiles from Soviet arsenals in Warsaw Pact member countries had been brought to Ukraine for dismantling but were lost due to "accounting problems," Khivrenko said. He said the absence of records documenting what happened to the missiles was "strange," and added that an investigation was under way. It was the same type of missile that brought down a U.S. U-2 spy plane over the Ural Mountains in 1960.
Make that 40-year-old missiles...
Marchuk blamed his predecessors for not observing proper accounting standards while dealing with the missiles and other weapons. "They say they were destroyed. OK, destroyed," Marchuk said. "Every such missile has gold, silver, platinum metals. Where are the results of their destruction?" Marchuk said that when he became minister, "no one knew what the armed forces had," and after nine months in the job he still doesn't have a handle on it precise information. He said that inventories of military equipment had revealed a gaping hole equivalent to some $189 billion. In comparison, Ukraine's entire budget last year was less than $10 billion.
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Posted by: Vladimir Eizenstein TROLL   2004-03-31 12:04:10 AM  

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Posted by: Apfelbaum TROLL   2004-03-31 12:04:10 AM  

#5  The Russians first deployed the SA-2 in 1953, so it's actually a 50+ year-old missile. There have been a number of upgrades, but it's still pretty much a dumb flying telephone pole. It's also HEAVY, and requires extensive support to use as an anti-aircraft missile. As for using it as a long-range artillery round, you'd have to use a different warhead, and the maximum range is about 30 miles. I'd suggest the better explanation is that they were stolen, broken down for parts and metals (as the article points out, there's a lot of gold, silver, and other precious metals used in the guidance electronics), and the rest sold as scrap.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-03-30 4:56:39 PM  

#4  I believe the Iraquis were just making use of the SA-2's first stage and straping on a bigger warhead and making a sort of poor man's extended range FROG.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-30 2:03:24 PM  

#3  Assuming this story is true, I'd guess that the missiles were sold to Syria or some other ex-Soviet client which already had the launchers.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-03-30 12:43:13 PM  

#2  I think the use of SA-2s in an SSM role would involve launching and assuming it would hit the ground someplace.
Posted by: Fred   2004-03-30 11:24:40 AM  

#1  ...I got sidetracked last night when i posted this, so I forgot to add the following - Saddam's most numerous SAM was the SA-2. On top of that, there were reports right before the war that his weapons guys had managed to figure out how to use the SA-2 in a surface to surface role. Wondering if there's a connection...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2004-03-30 10:02:13 AM  

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