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Caribbean-Latin America
Peru, Chile Arms Race Heats Up.
2004-03-30
An arms race is developing between Chile and Peru amid renewed border quarrels.
Oh, goody. Just what we need...
The Peruvian government has criticized Chile's purchase of four missile frigates from the Netherlands. Defense analysts think the Chilean buildup influenced Peru's decision to double the number of Lupus-class frigates it will buy from Italy this year — from two to four. At a press conference in Santiago, Peruvian Deputy Foreign Minister Luis Solari called on the Chilean public to question whether the naval buildup "responds to the country's true necessities." His Chilean counterpart, Cristian Barros, instantly defended the arms deal signed with the Netherlands as a policy of "dissuasion." The statements came as both governments sparred over renewed Peruvian claims on sea boundaries. The escalating war of words comes after a diplomatic offensive by Bolivia for a sea outlet lost in a 19th-century war, in which Peru also had copper-rich territories and important fishing waters confiscated by Chile. Peru had remained on the sidelines during recent months as Bolivian President Carlos Mesa advanced his country's claims and his leading domestic opponent, radical socialist Ewo Morales, threatened war. But now Peru has joined the fray.
So we have a Peru-Bolivia Axis threatening Chile.
In surprising declarations during a routine visit to Santiago, Mr. Solari told reporters: "The question of maritime delimitation, which remains pending according to our understanding, has been put before the Chilean government." He suggested that the issue be decided through international courts. Clearly irritated, Chilean Foreign Ministry officials told them to get stuffed responded that the matter was not being discussed.
"Courts? We don't need no steeking courts!"
The U.S. Supreme Court acted as a mediator in the last treaty fixing boundaries between Chile and Peru, negotiated in 1929.
American flag burning in 5..4..3..
Tensions have been exacerbated further by a border incident in which Chilean marines fatally shot a Peruvian civilian who reportedly was crossing into Chile illegally. Peru's Foreign Ministry has demanded that Chile apologize and undertake a full investigation, and the Peruvian press has attacked Chile. Peruvian politicians accuse Chilean pilots on commercial flights over Peru of conducting electronic espionage on military units in Peru's southern frontier.
They're just stupid enough to shoot one down, too. After that, fights on. It's that Latin blood, don't you know.
Although the Chilean government generally has handled the growing tensions as quietly and diplomatically as possible, an element of war fever shows up in public. News stands display publications with nostalgic accounts of Chile's triumphant 1879 war, a source of national pride. "It's the most extensive and successful war of conquest ever launched by a South American country," said Chilean film director Charlie Vara, who is making a movie called "Paz" about the hard-fought desert campaign that culminated in Chile's occupation of Peru's capital, Lima.
"Mr Vara, Leni Riefenstahl on line one."
It's also the only successful war of conquest launched by a South American country, so it was a natural for Mr. Vara ...
Chile hardly underestimates Peru, which fought a recent border war with Ecuador. Chilean staff officers interviewed by United Press lnternational said Peru's Russian-built air fleet of MiG and Soyuz [sic]fighters outperforms Chile's aging French Mirages "numerically and qualitatively."
Must be time for them to submit budget requests.
Peru also is thought to possess more effective antiaircraft defenses, and its Russian T-82 tanks are considered an even match for Chile's German-made Leopards. Chile is acquiring 12 American F-16 fighters, and there are plans to augment the army's air-mobile capabilities with additional Black Hawk and heavy-lift helicopters, Defense Ministry sources say.
Yup, budget time. Have to keep a eye on this area, while they are shaking fists at each other no one will have time to watch out for turbans using the area as a base.
Posted by:Steve

#12  I toured a Lupo in Genoa years ago. It looked to be a pretty capable ship. I brezed through their Combat Information Center (CIC.) They're stuff looked up-to-date and I think they had some link capability between ships. My impression was perhaps jaded as I compared it to the 30 year old tin-can that I was calling home at the time.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-03-31 2:31:43 AM  

#11  If I'm not mistaken Chile has a much more advanced economy, right? I believe they could outspend Peru in any potential arms race. I would also put my money on the Chileans. It's sad to me that they're fighting like this. They have much more serious things to worry about. Peruvian politicians are starting this. They're doing this to distract the Peruvian public from the dire situation they find themselves in in Peru. Where is Alberto Fujimori when you need him? Man, say what you want about Fujimori, but he kept Peru terrorist free for a long time. The Peruvian domestic political scene is really depressing. So let's just distract the public!
Posted by: Kentucky Beef   2004-03-31 12:58:30 AM  

#10  Shipman, forget the war of the triple alliances and think about the Soccer war.

I agree, however, that Chile will win in 2 months or less. Planes do not decide this type of war, neither side has the logistics to fight a tank battle through the desert that seperates them. Naval action will be the only real bit.

It is interesting to notice someone bragging about a war of conquest. Don't here that kind of talk very often.
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-03-30 11:40:18 PM  

#9  Lupo is a class of Italian Frigate from the 80's
Peru bought a couple at that time and seems that want more now. Chilean also will be second hand.

Soyuz fighters? if it was a spacecraft..
journalists cant write anything about military without silly mistakes? Sukhoi...
Posted by: Anonymous3971   2004-03-30 9:37:20 PM  

#8  Does the winner get the prettiest mountain?
Posted by: Charles   2004-03-30 8:24:48 PM  

#7  None of these guys have anything to gain by a serious war but that never stopped anyone before.
I thought I was a cynic.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-30 7:49:18 PM  

#6  On the other hand, both sides have a lot of obsolete warships that need to be replaced.

Still, we all remember that the Falklands/Malvinas started as a fit of wishful thinking and desperation. None of these guys have anything to gain by a serious war but that never stopped anyone before.
Posted by: Hiryu   2004-03-30 6:44:02 PM  

#5  See War of the 3 Alliances. It had a major effect on the population growth of Central South America for 2 generations.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-30 5:59:40 PM  

#4  Low ratio LH. But when South America decides to have a serious war it tends to very, very, bad. I'm temped to throw in another very.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-30 5:57:16 PM  

#3  ratio of Latin American border crises to actual Latin American border wars?
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-03-30 4:43:11 PM  

#2  can't fight in bright sunshine

Good for night attack, plus you have to use a silver Harpoon missile to sink them.
Posted by: Steve   2004-03-30 3:50:28 PM  

#1  Chile takes 'em down in 2 months.

Lupus-class frigates

Bad investment, can't fight in bright sunshine.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-30 3:43:39 PM  

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