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| Saudi TV Personality Savagely Battered by Husband |
| 2004-04-14 |
| Shock and anger at the beating of TV presenter Rania Al-Baz by her husband run deep among women here. The story put a face to an issue that had been largely relegated to brief sensational items on the crime pages, with graphic images of Raniaâs bruised and broken face appearing prominently in several local newspapers. âIt is a very common problem, unfortunately, not just here,â said Dima Al-Sulaiman, director of the volunteer committee at the National Home Health Care Foundation. She believes social values are to blame. âAbuse starts from childhood â in how parents direct their sons and daughtersâ behavior,â she said. Other women also blame the family and society in general for making violent behavior acceptable. âSaudi men think that this is the way to solve problems. They donât know how to discuss things quietly,â said Dina Arif, a businesswoman. She says too often a woman who is beaten complains to her father, who instead of taking positive steps to protect his daughter convinces her to go back to her husband and try to work things out... What the...? The Koran imposes on Muslim men, a strict obligation of spousal battery. It is this simple: if they donât use their wives for punching bags, they go to hell. Koran 4:34 "...As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and mis-conduct, admonish them, expel them from the marital bed, and beat them..." "Fear"? Could be deemed subjective and male-centrist. Then again, Muslims believe that the Koran is the words of their nominal deity, as recited by the nominal Angel Gabriel to Mohammed (Political Correctness be Upon Him). |
| Posted by:Man Bites Dog |
| #19 I am so disgraced at the events of this situation. I was horrified to read that such a bright, intelligent, beautiful mother was treated this way. My heart went out to her and I have been following this story since it hit the airwaves here in Canada. These Muslim men (so called men are disgraceful). They are no men at all. I can understand religion but right is right and wrong is wrong. What angered me more is the fact that she may still in fact loose her children which obviously are doomed if they stay with their father. I applaud the princess for stepping in and paying her hospital bills. Too bad they were not able to obtain protection for her. I only wish Rania the best in her fight against battered women. No matter the religion, her husband will be punished...if not now, in the afterlife. |
| Posted by: concernedfsm 2004-04-26 2:29:05 PM |
| #18 I wasnt concluding anything. Of course you were. You stated that what I know about Islam is wrong, whatever that's supposed to mean. And I dont recall mentioning anything about you saying bad about Islam. That's right. In fact, as far as you know I have said absolutely nothing about Islam one way or the other, so I fail to understand how you can make a judgement about my knowledge of Islam if you have no point of reference about my knowledge thereof. I was just giving my opinion.. Once again, based on what? Based on nothing. I am not considering you as an ignorant person. Well, thanks for that much... |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-04-17 6:14:28 PM |
| #17 I wasnt concluding anything .And I dont recall mentioning anything about you saying bad about Islam. I was just giving my opinion..I am not considering you as an ignorant person. |
| Posted by: Akrabi 2004-04-17 4:29:15 PM |
| #16 I have said nothing about Islam here, have I? That's rich, to consider me ignorant when you're the one drawing conclusions without facts beforehand. |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-04-17 4:14:08 PM |
| #15 Which deadthread are you talking about RAJ?.What you think you know about Islam is wrong. It does not teach violence nor supports it!.Islam values women more.But unfortunaley its those fanatics and extremists who seem to grab your attentions. |
| Posted by: Akrabi 2004-04-17 3:41:42 PM |
| #14 Why are you posting on a dead thread, Akrabi? |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-04-17 3:37:22 PM |
| #13 Yeah .I agree with you that there are some minority but what I dont agree is when everyone tries to link it with Islam.And what really got into my nerves is when one comment goes like"If you took all those veils off all the Moslem women, you'd find a lot of black eyes and broken noses"..Dont say something you dont know?! I wear veils at times?.Islam does not obligate women to wear its just a tradition .And you should know that tradition and Religion are two completrly different area. Dont link one with the other |
| Posted by: Akrabi 2004-04-17 3:31:13 PM |
| #12 Doing a quick google search found this memri.org article on Islamic scholars who advocate the beating of wives:- Sheikh Muhammad Kamal Mustafa, the imam of the mosque of the city of Fuengirola, Costa del Sol, was sentenced by a Barcelona court to a 15 month suspended sentence and fined ⬠2160 for publishing his book 'The Woman in Islam.' In this book, the Egyptian-born Sheikh Mustafa writes, among other things, on wife-beating in accordance with Shar'ia law. Sheikh Yousef Qaradhawi, one of the most influential clerics in Sunni Islam and head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, has advocated non-painful wife-beating. The Islamic Affairs Department of Saudi Arabia's Washington, DC Embassy: Men Have a Supervisory Authority because of Their Physical Advantages According to the website of the embassy of Saudi Arabia's Islamic Affairs Department (IAD), wife-beating is permitted in accordance with Qur'anic verses and Hadiths used by the IAD to explain the rights a husband has over his wives Jasem Muhammad Al-Mutawah, an expert on family matters in Islam, hosts a show on Saudi Arabia's Iqraa TV and discussed wife-beating while holding a 10-foot pool cue which he said some couples keep in the home. ... and so on. Of course they don't represent all muslims - hopefully just a tiny minority. But there is a problem there, especially when they have access to the media (Al Jazeera and Arab state-run television). |
| Posted by: A 2004-04-17 3:22:27 PM |
| #11 .These Islamic clerics dont represent the whole muslims.There r fanatics in all religions.These are extremist.But if you read what the Quran has to say regarding how a husband should treat his wife you will only then realise that what happened here was merely an individual act.He couldnt control his angry. He is accountable for his mistake. |
| Posted by: Hanaa 2004-04-17 2:55:21 PM |
| #10 But I've read articles pointing out Islamic clerics who support wife-beating, Hanaa. Until such clerics are shouted down, shamed and forced out of their positions I think there is a religious problem here. |
| Posted by: A 2004-04-17 2:50:47 PM |
| #9 I was really shocked after reading what has happened to Rania.Its compelety against our religion for a husband to abuse his wife.And the thing that made me write a comment is because of the comments posted here.You all blame this on religion when it has nothing to do with it.And hey! Here in America there too is abuse .SO why dont i see anywhere that Chirstainity supports it!!!..before any of you give your ideas first know the reasons!!..its was an individual act!!! |
| Posted by: Hanaa 2004-04-17 2:43:00 PM |
| #8 If you took all those veils off all the Moslem women, you'd find a lot of black eyes and broken noses. This represents one of the best reasons of all to forbid the veil. I don't advocate such a thing, but the irony of this one observation is a powerful and searing indictment of this outdated tradition. Whenever any Islamic person inquires about why Western countries want to forbid the veil or burkha, this should be the resounding reply. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-04-14 6:42:02 PM |
| #7 If you took all those veils off all the Moslem women, you'd find a lot of black eyes and broken noses. |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-04-14 5:52:31 PM |
| #6 Beheading is too good for this maggot. They need to start a little lower, if there's anything there to find. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-04-14 2:42:46 PM |
| #5 may bees pee upon him Ha ha! And: "May peas be upon him" . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-04-14 11:47:57 AM |
| #4 the arab news manages heroically not to use the word 'sharia' in this article |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-04-14 11:24:23 AM |
| #3 Absolutely incredible. If something like this was to happen in America, there'd be scandal, the husband would probably go to jail, and the feminists would cry out. But, hey, the Prophet (may bees pee upon him . . . love that phrase, guys) said it's okey-dokey! |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-04-14 11:07:36 AM |
| #2 Meanwhile, Human Rights Watch is busy imposing their will against the inhumane brutality of the Joos building a fence... |
| Posted by: Unmutual 2004-04-14 10:47:51 AM |
| #1 Penis too small? Women don't respect you because you're lazy, feel entitled, but are uneducated in useful skills? Go ahead and beat 'em - you're entitled too! The Quran sez so! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-04-14 10:29:55 AM |