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Puget Pravda Seattle Post-Intelligencer: We should just surrender now!
2004-04-17
War metaphor is icky misses the point
Seattle Post-Intelligencer Editorial Board
Thomas Kean, chairman of the 9/11 commission, called Tuesday's staff report an "indictment of the FBI." Commission member John Lehman called Wednesday's staff report an "indictment of the CIA. "One complaint is that the FBI treated terror as a crime, pursing evidence and compiling cases with a mind to their succeeding in a court of law. That would seem the very least of the agency's failings.
I dunno. It seems a reasonable approach, since terrorism arrests within the U.S. go into courts of law. They just have to work on the details...
If anything, it may be time to just give up the fight and get the wife fitted for that burqa rethink our "War on Terror" response to the Sept. 11 atrocities. The fiery assault by those associated with a shadowy foreign-based organization certainly felt like an act of war, at least in an unconventional, metaphorical sense.
To me, it felt like an act of war in the blown up buildings, thousands of dead people sense...
But conventional war is between states and governments.
If you lack imagination. Wars are actually fought between armies (actually between military establishments), though up until now they've been fought as matters of government policy. This particular war is being fought as a matter of religious policy, something that hasn't been seen since the Crusades. That doesn't make it not a war. Al-Qaeda did in fact declare war on us. They did it three years before the 9-11 attacks.
One nation is attacked overtly or threatened by another, and the governments of one or both nations respond with military force. But no nation attacked America on Sept. 11.
... wrote Procrustes in his editorial.
No government - to our knowledge - dispatched the attackers and operational or financial support doesn't count. So there was no nation to attack in defense, no government to condemn.
Oh, certainly there is. There was the government that gave the armed forces that attacked us refuge and comfort. There are the governments that finance them. There are the governments that shelter the organizations that provide their cannon fodder and their ideologues. There are the governments that provide them space for training centers and that provide them the resources of war. I could go on all morning...
A crime, though, is an act of individuals, committed for the pursuit of their own aims, not in service or allegiance to any nation or government. And that little trifle about radical Islamists believing that faith and government are indivisible? Fuhgeddaboudit Justice, then, lies not in the destruction of a nation's government or infrastructure but in giving sleazy leftist lawyers a chance to get the murdering scum off the hook assembling evidence, proving guilt and meting a slap on the wrist proportionate punishment.
No. Justice lies with stacking up dead bodies of armed bad guys and their supporters, at least a hundred of them for each of our own dead. That's justice. Legalism involves bringing them to trial and blah blah blah.
"The mission is to root out terrorists, to find them and bring them to justice," President Bush said on Sept. 26, 2001.
I think he might have had my kind of justice in mind, though he probably hadn't put a quantitative analysis on it...
When the government of Afghanistan clearly stood in the way of that pursuit of justice, military action was justified.
But the Seattle bird cage liner wasn't happy about military action then, either...
And had Iraq stood in the way of that pursuit, similar action would have been justified. But, administration allegations to the contrary, there was no demonstrable Iraq connection to 9/11.
Except that the administration didn't allege a direct connection.
Logic 101: Osama bin Laden is a terrorist. All terrorists are not Osama bin Laden.
What might have been accomplished had the United States invested $87 billion sending Officer Friendly to the Hindu Kush with an arrest warrant and an Arabic Miranda card in the pursuit of a criminal investigation of those who devised and directed the 9/11 attacks?
Oh, you mean $87 billion worth of kill squads, running from country to country and assassinating the ass hats that run the war against us? That might be a good idea. I've got a little list...
By assimilating the metaphor of war in combating terror, we may have become obsessed with actually defeating the bastards instead of currying the favor of leftist media asshats the pursuit of revenge instead of the pursuit of justice.
What more can be said? F***ing leftist scum-sucking fifth column media bastards.
Posted by:Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)

#5  Good thing we didn't have this crowd around in 1942! They would have had us surrender to AXIS forces after our defeat in the Philipines, Guam, etc. Headlines:
"Washington Group Prods Rosevelt to Cut Losses After Defeat in Phillipines"
"Relatives of Pearl Harbor Victims Angry that Rosevelt Will not Apologize For Attacks"
"Group Finds Connection Between Delano Family and German Group"
"Peace Group Shows Photos of Dresenden Massacre"
"German Group Files Complaint Against News Service For Using word KRAUT"
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-04-17 10:38:36 AM  

#4  This is the camp that believes that terrorism is something we just have to endure. Every year or so thousands or maybe tens of thousands will be murdered during a terrorist act. Then we will send in the FBI and try to search down the perpetrators. This was the 90’s strategy. A multi-front war on terrorism in their view is worse than the loss of life due to terrorism. If the United States uses its power to search out and eliminate terrorists where ever they may me than as a country we may become too powerful. Also since it is our policies that create the breeding ground for terrorism than we deserve that ever we get from those people that we have wronged. Thankfully most Americans either instinctually or intellectually reject this kind of argument. The lefts only recourse is to snip from the sidelines and use empty arguments like Bush didn’t find WMD’s, Bush is Hitler, or Bush knew about 911.
Posted by: Canaveral Dan   2004-04-17 10:25:20 AM  

#3  "box of rocks intelligencer" doesn't sound as good, I guess
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-17 9:12:52 AM  

#2  The Seattle Post-Intelligencer: as intelligent as a post!
Posted by: Mike   2004-04-17 8:50:50 AM  

#1  Just a guess: This paper won't be endorsing Bush.

This is so typical of leftist logic. After spending three weeks of their very own campaign to drop blame for 911 directly onto Bush, by using literary used tampon Richard Clarke, then by Ben-Veniste's exhibitionism of what a man should be like, then finding to their shock and horror that their favorite spooge monkey, Clinton, gets to hold the lion's share of the blame; THEN to top it all off, that evil(TM) John Ashcroft points out that an unnecessary 'wall' between agencies, direct and deliberate defunding of the military and law enforcement agencys on little more than a socialist whim all of which could conceivably at the very least have make 911 far, far more difficult, they change the premise of their argument.

God forbid we should win this war. That would take courage, dedication to a task, committing resouces and manpower, but most of all, precisely what the left will never do after the USA is in a war: Support the troops while they are in active combat operations.

The left, including this newspaper, fully supports the war on the United States. These folks truly believe the pen is mightier than the sword, and they will sink to no level low enough to ensure terrorists win.

Maybe we can use a law enforcement on the paper. We know how much they are in love with the law. Depraved indifference, 3000 counts. That makes as much sense as sending a 'posse' out to get Al Qaeda.
Posted by: badanov   2004-04-17 7:37:21 AM  

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