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| Why Are Muslims So "Shocked & Awed" By Yassin’s Assassination? |
| 2004-03-27 |
| Hark! Is this a real live moderate Muslim? At least he seems to have gotten a clue. Just the first paragraph. Please read the whole thing. By Shahed Amanullah is editor-in-chief of alt.muslim.com 3/25/04 I have to admit that I’ve been taken aback with the level of anger surrounding the killing of Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. Muslims both inside and outside of Palestine seem genuinely shocked - shocked, I tell you! - that Israel would dare to take out the spiritual head of Hamas in such a dramatic and bloody manner. And the loudest cries seem to be coming from those who well aware of, and have no problem with, Yassin’s ideology of the use of violence - including suicide bombings against civilians - as the "only way" to liberate Palestine. The very genuine grievances suffered by Palestinians seem to have nurtured an illogical expectation that both sides are bound to different rules of war, that somehow, if a Palestinian leader calls for young men to blow themselves up among Israeli civilians, a retaliation in kind against that leader is unacceptable. Of course, I’m told by friends that Israel should have instead arrested Yassin and given him a fair trial if they thought he had blood on his hands. I can only shake my head at the cognitive dissonance. Do these people think that the Muslims of old, after losing a battle, would protest indignantly to the victors? Yasin and Hamas declared war on Israel, an obviously stronger adversary, and they got war in return. Did they really expect a lawsuit instead? Much more at link. But I couldn’t resist his closing paragraph. Yassin’s death makes it clear that violent opposition to the occupation will ultimately fail. The tactic of suicide bombing should be buried along with him. If we are to see real progress towards the restoration of Palestinian rights rather than a march towards self-destruction, then Palestine will need more Rachel Corries and fewer Sheikh Yassins. |
| Posted by:GK |
| #8 The Muslims I knew are completely schizoid on things like this. They say Yassin was evil and doesn't represent Islam then two sentences later they say he really wasn't trying to ispire murder then a few sentences later its a condemnation of Israel and the US. Actually I guess schizoid doesn't cover it, its more like trizoid. |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-03-27 7:58:56 PM |
| #7 *** Dumpster *** What's with posting on all these old stories? You gonna go back in time and create some pointless legacy that maybe ONE or TWO people will ever read? This post of yours is MUCH more interesting: "Jen, only when and if he is ever properly elected will I then be grudgingly obliged to address him as you wish I would. His intentional blurring of the separation between church and state while simultaneously attempting to constitutionalize discrimination gets nothing but scorn from me. Thank goodness we live in a country where we can disagree on this matter. Please know that you indeed have the privilege to dislike me for what I say, that is entirely your right. Understand one thing though, I don't do this to intentionally anger or offend you or anybody else. As a proud American I cannot abide the White House's ham-fisted tampering with both the duties of executive office or our beloved constitution. Whatever proper intransigence might be shown for terrorism (as is demanded of all worthy commander in chiefs) still in no way confers any right to enshrine religious commandment as constitutional law, especially not in a nation wholly founded upon secular ideals. This is what he's attempting and my own ethicality demands that I consider it to be nothing less than malfeasance of office. Hence my scorn." Oh, Dumpster, you're a treasure. What a load of juicy bullshit. He IS the duly elected President of the United States, fucktard. Proof that all else you may say is at the very least suspect, if not outright total fucking bullshit. You're full of shit. Your notion that he is "constitutionalizing discrimination" is truly insane. Proof? You're full of shit. You provide no proof of any "ham-fisted" actions - or anything even remotely associated. You're full of shit. As an atheist, I know he has not done anything that hasn't been done before for the last 30 years to "enshrine religious commandment as constitutional law". I most certainly would've noticed. You're full of shit. The phrase "my own ethicality demands that I consider it to be nothing less than malfeasance of office" is so utterly asinine and disingenuous as to be breathtaking. You couldn't prove any aspect of that charge if your worthless life depended upon it. You're full of shit. It is clear that you're one thoroughly conflicted and fucked up induhvidual - and given your comments, so anti-Bush that you'd remove him from office if you could. You obviously think President Gore is being denied his constitutional rights. You're fucking insane. It is not unreasonable to presume you will vote against Bush, therefore, so you are in league with the enemy - there is no sane RBer who could possibly believe Skeery would be worth warm spit in the Wot - your pathetic little aside about Commanders in Chief notwithstanding. You are unbelievably amazingly self-defeatingly massively full of shit. You're a troll. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-04-05 11:35:03 PM |
| #6 Why Are Muslims So "Shocked & Awed" By Yassin’s Assassination? It's usually the extremeists who are most suprised when their own tactics are turned against them. They never figure on anyone else having a bigger set of ostiones. Violent @ssholes are always amazed when someone cold-cocks them for being such jerks. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-04-05 11:12:37 PM |
| #5 The two 'non-violent' activists he mentions may have been so, but they weren't above supporting those doing the killing. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2004-03-27 9:33:03 PM |
| #4 mhw - LOL! Mirrors my experience: Normal conversation in progress, seemingly open minded, discussing issues, blah blah blah then we trip some trigger and *bam!*, like a steel trap door slams shut and the Evil Joooos! mentality appears in full raging spittle mode. Completely blows you away. I think you could just call 'em "zoids" and leave it at that! 8-) |
| Posted by: .com 2004-03-27 8:09:53 PM |
| #3 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted] |
| Posted by: mhw TROLL 2004-03-27 7:58:56 PM |
| #2 There's an old quote from Science Fiction author Larry Niven "never throw shit at an armed man" |
| Posted by: Cheddarhead 2004-03-27 6:49:51 PM |
| #1 well, he is editor of alt.muslim.com, which is a newsgroup of ALTERNATIVE viewpoints - One can hope? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-03-27 4:31:48 PM |