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| To My American Readers With Love |
| 2004-05-16 |
| Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Arab News I can feel the love. It is refreshing to learn that some of you agree with at least some of what I stand for. I appreciate and learn from your critical, independent, humane and global views. Together, we could start a global movement against all kinds of abuse, extremism and terror. Yes, there are Fifth Columnists even here in America. But there are also readers who insist that there is a difference between the crimes of a better class of people, who can do no wrong, and the lesser breed, whose similar or smaller crimes are inexcusable. I would only say to them: This is the mentality of the super-race, the crusaders and Zionists that gave rise to Bin Laden and his kind. Bin Laden is a crusader and Zionist. Wow! I missed that video. After centuries of imperialism and a concomitant flood of this rubbish, we cannot take it anymore. Either a crime is a crime and a criminal is a criminal regardless of color and race, or we have the law of the jungle, the Wild West, and all lawsuits are void. Sharia is the only law. I would ask this â hopefully â small number of vocal readers: Why does the US so adamantly refuse to join the World Court of Justice? Why would it force every member to sign a bilateral agreement not to persecute any American for war crimes? Why does it, on the other hand, preserve the right to persecute anyone, even prisoners of war, outside the international judicial system and without regard for the global conventions it is a signatory to? Dr Bartafi, you, sir, are a demagogue. You pretend not to know the answers to your own questions. That love thing must be fogging your mind. You rightly regard the crimes of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan as not representative of America. I lived in beautiful America with very beautiful Americans, and I wholeheartedly agree. How come, then, that you insist that the crimes of Muslim terrorists are representative of 1.5 billion Muslims, and blame Islam and Saudi Arabia for the extremist misreadings of Islam and the terrorist acts of a minority? Beautiful Americans? Donât you want all women in Burkas? Muslim terrorists are committing their crimes in the name of Islam. All we infidels hear is the silence of the rest of the Muslims. Accordingly, the silent are agreeing that the crimes represent Islam. The double standards go on. You regard the killing of tens of thousands of Palestinians, Afghani and Iraqi women and children as collateral damage, the barbaric violence of your soldiers as natural reactions in the fog of war. And then you turn around and tell us that the savage burning of four mercenaries and killing of militant Israeli settlers â land thieves â by rogue elements with valid complaints are indefensible crimes that all of us should pay or apologize for. Tens of thousands of women and children killed. What the f***! We missed all the men. Call the bombers back. âWar is Hell,â and if you start a fight you better roll with the punches. If you donât like the heat, get the hell out of our kitchen. You shouldnât be there in the first place. Look, Doc, if we wanted, we could turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. America will never surrender to the Death Cult. Count on it Doc. This War isnât over by a long shot. Hell could be coming your way. Finally, if I sound angry, then wait until you hear from the Muslim street. For the sake of all of us peace lovers, I hope you donât wait too long. Ooga booga, the Arab Street, oohhh Iâmmmm sooo scared. Doc, you better start worrying about the American Street. Itâs getting pretty feed up with the Moon God Cult. â kbatarfi@al-madina.com.sa |
| Posted by:Jabba the Nutt |
| #91 Hola! Soy en Havana Vieja. No tienemos los Yankee Chest Beateres aqui - es paradiso (sin medicines y 'burgers' claro). I see Mr Atomic (aka 'Nuceelieaar' as the Pres' says) has been found out as to his true location. Not many stetsons in Carlisle were there 'matey'. Just be straight will you - it was SO obvious that my dumb assumption was right, dude! Anyway, can I just get you guys to consider the possibility that any individual who does not agree with you at this time may not turn out to be a stars and stripes burning rabid Qu'ran bashing NUTTER! There are idiots on both side of this seemingly oily but often religiously labelled divide. However EVERYONE 'Stateside jumps to the conclusion that one is turban sporting, semtex wearing, anti western democracy NUTTER whnever 'non useful' dissent to the US is shown! Nothing could be further from the truth for me - I hate all NUTTERS with guns; so that goes for you both (within my secular little world I just base my judgment on behaviour and morality, and so you both lose, and I therefore have no friends!!!! ;-) ) Buenas noches muchachos;-) |
| Posted by: Havana Chest Beater 2004-05-17 4:27:36 PM |
| #90 Worthsayingtwice, Brilliant! |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-05-17 3:17:54 AM |
| #89 Atomic Conspiracy, well stated Sir! |
| Posted by: Mark Espinola 2004-05-17 2:44:00 AM |
| #88 Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, PLEASE.....spare us the same old dribble ,,it's .......B O R I N G! |
| Posted by: Mark Espinola 2004-05-17 2:42:41 AM |
| #87 But ML, I don't have a sister. I do have a crazy Quaker aunt who still makes every peacenik hatefest in the UK at age 80. She thought Stalin was the greatest leader of the 20th Century, but changed her tune after Mao came along. Unfortunately, they don't have a thousand camels in Carlisle (where she lives). Would hippy or trotskyite fleas do? No shortage there. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-17 2:29:58 AM |
| #86 Ah ML...since we're quoting and insulting at the same time allow me to just say: "May the eggs of a thousand dung flys infest your scrotum". Be well and stay away from the hookah. |
| Posted by: Valentine 2004-05-17 1:24:26 AM |
| #85 Atomic Conspiracy May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your sister's armpits. Jabba the Nutt May your next male child look like Condaleeza Rice. Shipman May your dog have a love affair with your favorite lounge chair. Yankee Chest Beater May the Holy Koran be made the American Constitution. |
| Posted by: Muslim Lover 2004-05-16 11:03:07 PM |
| #84 "I fear an America that is out of control and creating a new world chaos." The meme of the clueless. |
| Posted by: virginian 2004-05-16 10:19:05 PM |
| #83 LOL! YCB! You're doing the good work! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-05-16 7:25:36 PM |
| #82 Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 10:47:45 AM: 'Didn't shit in your pants my arse'! You wouldnt even cross the Atlantic in a plane for a holiday for 12 months, almost killing your airline industry! But I still like this brave fighting talk of 'turning their countries into glass'... My parents, in there 80's, flew on vacation the week after 9/11. You can't even scare 80 year olds, you pantswetter. |
| Posted by: Jabba the Nutt 2004-05-16 6:47:19 PM |
| #81 Texans rule! ;-) |
| Posted by: Jen 2004-05-16 5:54:08 PM |
| #80 Those quotes would apply to to those who demonize the United States and support its enemies in the present conflict. These are not necessarily Muslims, let alone all of them. I am indeed in Texas, Lubbock to be exact, where I have lived and worked for 20 years. Doc, the broad north country accent has some affinity for the Scots accent, and the two tend to blend in the border country. It is quite distinct from other English accents and Londoners, for example, often have trouble understanding it. The Texan accent has some phonetic similarity to both English and Scots accents, though the overall effect is startlingly different. It is relatively easy to transition between the two once you have the knack for it. I speak Texan quite well after all these years, but I cannot do the flat Midwestern accent. Remember the actor John Hillerman, who played the pompous English majordomo, Higgins, on Magnum PI? Hillerman is a native of Dennison, Texas. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-16 5:52:27 PM |
| #79 I may have heard that at some point, and now that you say it it rings a bell. AC - if this is true, how does the accent work? A Scottish-English mixed with a Southern drawl? A couple of my friends and I do a show on our college's radio station, and we have a Scottish-German character who's an absolute scream. But I find it hard to imagine a mix of that sort . . . |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-05-16 4:30:11 PM |
| #78 I think it's pretty clear that AC is with us He sure is. AC is a Texan (if memory serves). |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-05-16 4:21:07 PM |
| #77 And, YCB, I thank you for your compliment. I don't know, however, how much I was saying that was different from what other people on this site believe; I was just saying it a different way. My reaction is to your anger - we don't need people who will just complain and criticize and refuse to stand with us. Keeping a cool head is very important in such vital matters; just remember that. And enjoy your flight. |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-05-16 4:14:47 PM |
| #76 YCB: A lot of those quotes are rather dead-on, aren't they? The Taliban did proclaim victory. Saddam thought we'd be throwing ourselves against the burning gates of Baghdad. Tactical engagements are lost but victory is still claimed. Maybe that's why he used them. I think it's pretty clear that AC is with us, showing Western solidarity with a cause he believes in. We need that kind of support if we're going to keep humanity from falling into the Dark Ages of Sharia. And we need people who will make us question what we're doing, to make sure we stay on the right path. But we don't need you. |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-05-16 4:12:06 PM |
| #75 Doctor - what a fabulous balanced & measured post. I disagree with very little. If there were only more of you here then I for one would not get so hot headed or angry (ohh and the world would surely be a better place too!!!!). A plane to catch... |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 4:09:43 PM |
| #74 Atomic - excellent! Proper replies! My mistake you cant be a Yank - you didnt mention your might or guns once or threaten my physically once! And a nice construction on the concept of 'assumptions' too. However (and cut me some slack here, dude) when you say things to me (and I'm a totally unreligious unbearded camel-less 'dude/fellow/wee man/chap' remember) such as: "It is you lot who proclaimed Taliban victory" "in Fallujah, where a thousand of your heroes were mowed down" "like your friends the dead jihadis" "You lose, lose, lose and still proclaim your superiority at every turn" "Remember Streicher and Goebbels, murder-inciting Hate America bigots; follow their path, share their fate". And throw in for good measure : "here in the states" Well, so, err, forgive me for assuming that you are err, somewhat to the right of Charlton Heston i.e live in the house right next door to him in Malibu! If you are truly near Scotland, well there is only that Atlantic in your way to your true heartland; when are you emmigrating? And feel free to assume I fear an America that is out of control and creating a new world chaos rather than that I adore the Taliban or such other nonsensical irrelevance. You will find a lot of us by know you know, old chap... YCB PS take a gun if you go & mind the God (or god) squad - thay are as bad as the worse of the Koran bashers (but, naturally a lot more dangerous of course)... (you of course say Qu'ran if you prefer - you like your options) PPS off to Cuba now (honest!!!!) so do feel free to let it rip in your reply. It might spare some other poor peacenik here from having the typed AK47 up his arse for DARING to dissent. I'll bring you back a cigar to insert in yours - that would be so funny as your gang remain still scared of the peasants that roll them...so scared they still deny them medicine. Nice... |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 4:04:07 PM |
| #73 ruprecht---OPEC and the rest of the world is one sick symbosis. They give us oil, we give them money and goods and they blow it on baubles and babes. The sooner we get off the ME tit, the better off the WHOLE WORLD will be. This is a project bigger than the manhattin project in WW2. Get rid of the money going to the ME and you get rid of the jihadi problem. And they can go back to pounding sand. This transition out of ME oil is a HUGE undertaking, but what the hell, we need a real challenge. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-05-16 3:54:52 PM |
| #72 Let's be real, an oil embargo would be a disaster for the Arabs and they know it, that's why they haven't tried since the 70s. Oil is a commodity and you can't forbid a single nation from buying a commodity without a blockade. The only way they could keep oil out of the US would be to not sell it to anybody. Since the economies of the oil producing states are totally based on oil revenues they would collapse and governments would fall. Anarchy would reign and the west would probably move in to protect citizens (working in oil industries) and secure the oil fields in the process. After the embargo of the 70s the US moved towards fuel efficient cars. I'm betting another embargo would find the US moving away from oil-based cars all together (probably towards advanced bio-desiel engines that can run on peanut oil or something along those lines). So, short term bad, long term good. Bring it on. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2004-05-16 3:47:58 PM |
| #71 I've been checking on this thread periodically all day, laughing every time. The crossfire has been particularly amusing, especially early on with sake's name-calling. Great job, guys. But I feel obliged to offer my humble opinion that the original topic has been lost amongst the squabbles. And so I'm going to offer my own two cents, and show myself to be more mature - but before I do, Muslim-Lover, I want to explain to you a very simple concept of the world: there is more than one of every product. In a capitalist society, items are mass-produced. That my girlfriend has the same stuff from Victoria's Secret as the really hot models who wear it in the catalogs does not mean that one of us stole it from the other (too bad, too; she's beautiful, but those models are - oh, never mind); it simply means that they are two instances of a product produced in mass quantities. I'm not going to bother to look at the link; your description is enough to void its claim. Arabs see conspiracies everywhere; this is ultimately understandable as it does seem to be a facet of their lives, but please try to bring more compelling evidence next time. The sad truth is, Islam is doing more to discredit itself than anything the Jews and Christians ever could. It has been stated on this site many a time: if moderate Muslims do not agree with what is being perpetuated in their religion's name, then they need to stop it. Either way, someone's being "unIslamic," and if speaking out against extremism is unIslamic, does it really deserve to survive? I think it has the potential to be quite a positive force in the world, but first it needs to give up its dreams of world domination and delusions of victimization by massive Zionist(TM) and Christian conspiracies. Also, YCB, please do not insult religion; I believe that there is a God, and so do a lot of other intelligent people on this planet. It's what you do with that belief, how it motivates you, that is important. And killing in God's name is more of an indicator of what you believe than of what He might want you to do. I rather do suspect that Allah is something of an invention, but more in his aspects than the original idea of there only being one God - a belief which originated with the Hebrews, I might want to point out (so if history is so important to Islam, why is it trying to eradicate the religion that provided its base?). It is my personal belief that Allah was used by Mohammed to justify his own actions - but if you want to argue with me on a rational basis, I will be happy to. Just don't flat-out tell me that there is no God, or that Allah's the real thing, and expect me to just accept it. I have my personal beliefs, and my suspicions, and both are subject to modification given events and facts and discussion. Anyway, now that I've gotten that out of my system, I'd like to observe that in this letter, this doctor seems to be missing a few key concepts. First of all, it's pretty clear that he's trying the approach of "We Muslims are just like you, only we want to be accepted and take you over." This is the "virus" approach, where Muslims use Western freedoms to gain acceptance before trying to push their own cultural standards upon us. And while you may not like the way I state it, it is what happens: take the story of that town in . . . Michigan, I think, though I could be wrong (the one with the mosque blaring the prayer call) for instance. And CAIR saying they'd like the US government to be Islamic some day. Face it, it happens. And this is another instance of Islam trying to sneak under our radar, to play upon our sympathies to get into a position of superiority. And why don't we want to join the International Court? Because we don't think it'll be effective, just like the UN. It will become a pawn for dictatorships and minorities seeking to exploit international goodwill. And a crime is a crime, I'll agree, but under sharia there are a lot of things that are punished that are not crimes: disagreeing with Islam, for instance. One last thing (and I do apologize for the length of this). If he lived with "beautiful Americans," why is it that he wants them to come under the sharia and clothe themselves? I realize he never said that outright, but if he believes Islam will some day rule the planet, that is a logical consequence . . . |
| Posted by: The Doctor 2004-05-16 3:41:11 PM |
| #70 YCB, if you were really well-traveled you would probably be able to deduce from linguistic cues that I am English by birth and education. In contrast, some here are so well-traveled that they have guessed from similar cues that I am from the Scottish border region of England. You otherwise display your own ignorance and bigotry in many ways. Those who fail to share your beliefs are insular and untraveled. Why? Because you say so? You are clearly unused to having your authority challenged. In itself, this is a good indication of insularity. Did I say that you were Muslim? that you had a beard? Quite the contrary, I referred to you and like-minded terror-apologists as "dhimmis." Are you not aware that one cannot be a dhimmi and a Muslim at the same time? Are you really clairvoyant enough to tell me what I am thinking, and make an authoritative statement about my assumptions? Did your education not include formal logic? How else would it be that you are so ignorant of strawman fallacy? Are you not aware that "pedophile" is standard spelling in the United States, and is also commonly used in the UK, or that "god" is not capitalized unless it refers to a specific alleged deity? Would you really say, "Zeus is not a real God or "Michael Moore and Robert Fisk are living Gods"? Where have you been all your life? |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-16 3:20:05 PM |
| #69 #3 Exclusive: same white porch chair turns up in different terror videos, proving that Mossad, Charles Johnson and the CIA are responsible for all terror blamed on Muslims. http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html Marc Perkel for President. "Get Out of the Dark and Go With Marc."> |
| Posted by: Muslim Lover 2004-05-16 3:10:52 PM |
| #68 bottom line is that they complain that our bad guys intimidate them, we complain that their bad guys kill us. Mr. Barfi, you are right. The Nick Berg caused even the most wanna-believers to question if you are all a bunch of savages. You can seperate yourselves from the nuts if you want to by condemning their actions and assisting us in our fight. You're savage brothern have forced most Americans and Europeans to take off the rose colored glasses and for the first time we see the entire world in a new light. We now look at our history and understand WHY we were capable of the things we did in the past - even though we still cling to the hope that we can avoid doing them again. We are so beyond your complaints of "intimidation". Your complaints just seem silly and sad to us, like the ex-wife still complaining that her ex never took out the trash. yawn.. time to get over it cause we just don't care anymore. |
| Posted by: worthsayingtwice 2004-05-16 3:03:06 PM |
| #67 Sakattack writes: think muslim nations (if stick together) won't survive? They hv more resources available then the west, albeit not being utilized in a proper way. Um, no, you don't -- if you discount the oil, the combimed GDP's of the 22 Arab countries is less than the GDP of Finland. And we all know what an economic and military juggernaut Finland is. Please remind me of the last time, alone or combined, Arab countries beat a Western country in a war. It's been a while, eh? Now the Arab nations might be pretty good at the asymmetrical war idea, at least until Americans become so angry that they decide to write y'all off. You wouldn't like that if we did. Think of the following examples: Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Tokyo. Dresden. Hamburg. Aachen. There are few things more profoundly terrifying than a Western democracy that decides to make total war. Think about that. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2004-05-16 2:51:50 PM |
| #66 Atomic, you (like most of your insular, untraveled countrymen here) always jump to such assumptions. Since I espouse views that are not as yours I'm immediately some mad muslim to be berrated by talk of goats and peasantry. It so underlines your ignorance and the reason I have turned my back on the might of you white - you are SUCH bigots. You are so full of hate you dont even pause to think who you are targetting - and therein lies the key to the bigger picture... THINK about that please. I have no beard you know... |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 2:51:38 PM |
| #65 While we're at it, Goebbels/Streicher descendants, where are the Iraqi children who were starved by the millions by US sanctions? Why did the Euro-lefty NGOs and "investigative journalists" fail to get even a whiff of the monstrous oil-for-food scam? Whey were Euros silent about the billion dollar palaces Euro-corporations built for Saddam and his devil-spawn? You are self-convicted cowards, plainly supporting those who issue fatwas and abusing those who don't. You have made a mistake in your bigoted hubris. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-16 2:45:12 PM |
| #64 Shipman there is no point talking politics with you (unless you can actually SEE my BIG gun of course) so let me pedantically correct the grammar of your language as I'll never alter it's tone : Naughty schoolboy version : There is no god named allah mohammed was a pedophile. Slightly educated version (and from a 'dumb' foreigner too who didn't learn English on momma's lap): There is no God named Allah. Mohammed was a paedophile. (from Greek paedia - children - how apt) Now to clarify further, there is actually no God full stop. It's quite a ridiculous concept! There may have been a Mohammed - he was just a man, but a good one, quite unlike those that can talk such nonsense and throw such insults (whichever 'side' they are on). |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 2:43:35 PM |
| #63 "Yankee Chest Beater" The real chest beaters are the lying sons of Goebbels like this shithead authoritarian Batarfi, and the pathetic dhimmi-bigots like you who lick his arse. It is you lot who proclaimed Taliban victory in Afghanistan (through Streicher's bastard dog Robert Fisk) and in Iraq, and most recently in Fallujah, where a thousand of your heroes were mowed down and the city is in the hands of our allies at our direction. Cowards, ie Euro-bigots and their RoP-doper allies here in the states, are the real bullies, using the power of lies and hypocrisy to justify their craven submission to mass murdering pigs whose idea of paradise is a misogynistic whorehouse in the sky. Liars and braggart cowards, like your friends the dead jihadis: You lose, lose, lose and still proclaim your superiority at every turn. Remember Streicher and Goebbels, murder-inciting Hate America bigots; follow their path, share their fate. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-16 2:40:48 PM |
| #62 Hmm what would we do if Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries shut off our oil supply? Why invade Canada with a girl scout troop and take over THEIR oil supplies. FEAR THE GIRL SCOUT COOKIES!!! |
| Posted by: Valentine 2004-05-16 2:39:19 PM |
| #61 Shipman: May all your goats give sour milk. |
| Posted by: Muslim Lover 2004-05-16 2:38:53 PM |
| #60 USSR would be able to take care of the little chechen problem too! LOL! There is no god named allah mohammed was a pedophile |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-05-16 11:59:40 AM |
| #59 How I wish the USSR was still in existence to temper your rantings and threaten YOU with weapons and bombs as willingly as you threaten others. LOL! Praise God! The trolls are back in town! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-05-16 11:57:48 AM |
| #58 Ok shit for brains if you want a war come get some,bring your ass over and lets get it done I am tired of all the useless threats everybody sez there going to do to US.Well start your war lets see who wins. |
| Posted by: djohn66 2004-05-16 11:04:20 AM |
| #57 doctag /DDick, i'm sure u hv already completed ur tour of duty for ur homeland and now just sitting on ur pc and typing all these brave |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 11:03:16 AM |
| #56 #55 addressed, of course, to nutsak. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 11:00:46 AM |
| #55 If you honestly consider Kimmy a "hero", than by saying so in a public forum you have done more to discredit your worldview than anything I could add. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 10:59:45 AM |
| #54 Sakattack, how old are you? And what pestilential third-world shithole do you live in? |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-05-16 10:57:29 AM |
| #53 Docboo! Yes those guys are heros, cuz they hv more balls then u to stand upto the "world's Thug". #49 u r right u didn't pre 9/11, u do now cuz of 9/11. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 10:54:05 AM |
| #52 Yer right YCB, such angry boasts are particularly offensive when compared to the verbal restraint on the other side. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 10:51:45 AM |
| #51 'Didn't shit in your pants my arse'! You wouldnt even cross the Atlantic in a plane for a holiday for 12 months, almost killing your airline industry! But I still like this brave fighting talk of 'turning their countries into glass'... |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 10:47:45 AM |
| #50 p.s. -- As far as food, tho, nutsack, it's pretty much a "BYO" situation in NKor, so remember that when packing. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 10:44:43 AM |
| #49 "U r so paranoid now that if a firecracker goes off, u shit in ur pants." We didn't shit in our pants on 9/11, why should we do it now? |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-05-16 10:42:13 AM |
| #48 Yup, yer right about that, nutsack. Since the NKors are such mighty heroes to you, perhaps, you should attempt to move there, to apply your shoulder more effectively to the great anti-American wheel. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 10:41:14 AM |
| #47 #44, sorry i meant ARSE Nailer. That will nail ur ass. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 10:35:31 AM |
| #46 #42 no u got more serious things like saving ur collective asses. U r so paranoid now that if a firecracker goes off, u shit in ur pants. #43, well said ;)These assholes had to use Muslims help in the downfall of USSR and now look at them acting like goddamn world police. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 10:32:32 AM |
| #45 So what particularly bad news did the terrorists, their supporters, and the anti-anti-terrorists get this morning? |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-05-16 10:30:22 AM |
| #44 N.Korea with its ARSENAL? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This (nut)sack-attack guy is fun to have around. Fresh blood, trollishly speaking. |
| Posted by: docob 2004-05-16 10:30:06 AM |
| #43 You guys are a sad and arrogant indicment of American society. How I wish the USSR was still in existence to temper your rantings and threaten YOU with weapons and bombs as willingly as you threaten others. OK I know you are only keyboard jockeys here and have no real power, but still, I think you would behave better if there was another country around with more weapons and more common sense. Continue the insults and threats if that is to be your new world... |
| Posted by: Yankee Chest Beater 2004-05-16 10:27:56 AM |
| #42 "FYI my ass is more white than ur face. U can't label all non west ppl as brown." A thousand apologies, my little friend! From your ignorance, your illiteracy, your utter failure to grasp what we have been telling you, and your general, all-around stupidity, I inferred that you were a wog. Sorry for the misunderstanding. "Here we also do things like tanning." You've got more serious things to think about than tanning, or making smartass remarks to Americans: heed the warnings we have given you, lest we be left with no alternative to exterminating you. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-05-16 10:26:45 AM |
| #41 Hey dumb ass #39, what? u'll wear body condoms to protect urself from the nuclear fallout? Can't even protect urselves from AIDS. Thinking about exterminating world. U forgot on the flip side is Russia, N.Korea with its arsenal. Try to send one flying that side and see what happens. #40, no1 except the dumbest guy in the world - i.e Robert Crawford. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 10:25:58 AM |
| #40 Anyone else shocked by the apparent illteracy of "sakattack"? |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-05-16 10:12:07 AM |
| #39 Damn i hate dumb trolls,hey idiot if the US tomorrow wanted to exterminate the world it could be done at anytime of are choosing.Think about it a little bit. |
| Posted by: djohn66 2004-05-16 10:11:36 AM |
| #38 Worth repeating: There is no god named allah mohammed was a liar |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-05-16 10:11:35 AM |
| #37 i'm sure we would be begging for ur mac's and KFC's cuz we want to be fat and obese like u guys, if u stop ur food exports I'm sure your moongod Allan will provide you with plenty of Goat teats to suck on with your falafel. Or maybe he'll make sand edible. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4867 2004-05-16 9:49:45 AM |
| #36 Diet Pepsi has alcohol in it. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-05-16 9:28:50 AM |
| #35 #32 this question has me stumpted. This is our failing. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 9:27:12 AM |
| #34 #29 , i'm sure we would be begging for ur mac's and KFC's cuz we want to be fat and obese like u guys, if u stop ur food exports. The only thing i'll miss is the Diet Pepsi. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 9:19:20 AM |
| #33 Davd Dick, FYI my ass is more white than ur face. U can't label all non west ppl as brown. Here we also do things like tanning. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 9:16:07 AM |
| #32 #28, Tell one intance where muslim countries have gotten together other than to plan the destruction of another country (and failed at that, too)? |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-05-16 9:14:35 AM |
| #31 oops sorry, ...commenet=comment. Not sure you'd be able to figure that out. Phew took load off my tiny brain, i was searching the dictionary for this new word. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 9:11:07 AM |
| #30 #24, Right now Saudi Arabia can sell a lot of its oil to China, and other Asian and European countries. They will get what they need from same countries to survive. It is in the interest of the US to continue cultivating the "ties" with the Royal Family and help keep it in power. If the Royal Family falls, you will have another Taliban type of government in place. That is not good for the US. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-05-16 9:10:19 AM |
| #29 One more thing,during the 1974 oil embargo I felt at that time if the Arabs wanted to use oil as a weapon we should use food as a weapon.Let them eat a big ol'bowl of crude stew. |
| Posted by: Raptor 2004-05-16 9:09:34 AM |
| #28 Ratpoo, u think muslim nations (if stick together) won't survive? They hv more resources available then the west, albeit not being utilized in a proper way. #25. tnx for calling me a genuis and appreciating my humor. Since i'm dumb enough not to think the genuis is a sarcastic remark. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 9:09:11 AM |
| #27 "I wud guess going into another muslim country will be peach for u." Actually, it probably will be a peach for us. What we are doing in Iraq is predicated on the assumption that it is possible to de-toxify Muslim society through the introduction of democratic, consensual self-government, thereby allowing that society to prosper and become peaceful. But if our experience in Iraq ends up disproving that assumption, and we are forced to the conclusion that Islamic society is irredeemable-- and Islam itself intrinsically evil-- you can bet your little brown ass that the next time we are attacked, our response will not be a war of liberation: it will be a war of extermination. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-05-16 9:08:50 AM |
| #26 oops sorry, ...commenet=comment. Not sure you'd be able to figure that out. |
| Posted by: B 2004-05-16 9:02:29 AM |
| #25 Hey sakattack genius....you missed his point. Funny commenet though. |
| Posted by: B 2004-05-16 9:00:29 AM |
| #24 And just what,Sadsack,do you think would happen to the economies and people of the Middle East if the U.S decided to put a total blockade on the Middle East. America can feed herself,can you say the same for Muslem countrys. Deffinatly not. |
| Posted by: Raptor 2004-05-16 8:59:09 AM |
| #23 #20, I live in Saudi Arabia. These people have one-track mind: Me, me, me.... I shut their mouths when they want to sing that same song to me just by saying: you and I know, if americans would have done what you did to them, my husband's, son's and every american's head would have rolled on the ground faster than you can say shawarma. I ask them to give me a count of how many saudis have been killed in America, after 15 of them murdered 3000 american citizens. They never have much to say after that. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-05-16 8:57:26 AM |
| #22 Who is this Dr. Barf guy, anyhow? |
| Posted by: Infidel Bob 2004-05-16 8:52:14 AM |
| #21 enough oil in my backyard to fuel at least one ICBM (you know, the diesel powered, MACH 35 X-1000 model, LMAO) Wow that wud certainly take off |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 8:46:29 AM |
| #20 This really made my blood pressure rise!!! I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. Boo Friggin Hoo. The bad among us just intimidate you. Ooooh...how terrible. The bad among you blow us up and ruin our free society. And adding insult to injury, Moslem Organizations can't even sit in quiet condemnation, they endlessly BLAME US (and of course the Jews) for the problems that can be found in their own mirrors. Shut up and sit down, we aren't interested in your petty problems anymore. |
| Posted by: B 2004-05-16 8:41:41 AM |
| #19 These guys would love to pay $100 / gallon. At $100/gallon I'm riding my bike, or driving electric. So no cabbage for you, pal. And there's just about enough oil in my backyard to fuel at least one ICBM (you know, the diesel powered, MACH 35 X-1000 model, LMAO) |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-05-16 8:39:42 AM |
| #18 Funny, i'm sure the ICBM will leave the wells, well alone and only take out the population. And u guys r doing pretty good job in IRAQ so far - what with hardly any problems and no casualties so far. I wud guess going into another muslim country will be peach for u. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 8:37:55 AM |
| #17 I pick Saudi Arabia as my nomination for being the example,lets see if they can hijack their way outa an incoming ICBM.Then rob thier oil thus drawing all other stupid Arab armies to thier death in the deserts of Sauidi Arabia,the fly paper stratagy in grand scale.. :) |
| Posted by: Shep UK 2004-05-16 8:19:00 AM |
| #16 Well lets see if arabs stop oil ,we come and take it how about that,nothin you coulk do about it. |
| Posted by: djohn66 2004-05-16 8:18:56 AM |
| #15 shep UK. I'm sure u wud like to dig for oil in ur backyard, when the muslims retaliate by stopping the supply of oil to the west. Where will all ur aircrafts, Ships (non nuclear),subs, vehicals and ICBMs get their fuel from? Heh not a bad idea, calling osma get ur ass up here pronto.....These guys would love to pay $100 / gallon. |
| Posted by: sakattack 2004-05-16 8:16:48 AM |
| #14 I know this sounds bad but we need to pick and arab country and make a example of them.Show them what happens when you piss us off. |
| Posted by: djohn66 2004-05-16 7:45:23 AM |
| #13 I have one message for this unctious, lying bastard: IF YOU DO NOT STOP EXPORTING TERRORISTS, YOU WILL ALL DIE. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2004-05-16 7:29:10 AM |
| #12 *cough* the "American Street" is filled with indy-bleedia and PoopOn.org folks. Face it, the real power in this nation is in the "American Suburb" where moms and dads are revving up their Hummers to run over the crowds of zombies playing a game of protest front of starbucks. We'll know that the tides have changed when little kids stop playing "Coybows and Indians" and start playing "Cowboys and Boomers" |
| Posted by: Anonymous 2004-05-16 5:42:12 AM |
| #11 'Finally, if I sound angry, then wait until you hear from the Muslim street'. HA HA HA, thats the best one i've heard all week,what you gonna do get allah to come beat us all up. Time to start enforcing our indisputable power on the high seas me thinks.Lets blockade all the major sea routes in the CENTCOM region, the Gulf,the Red Sea,the Med and only let vessals transit these waters and on no accounts dock in Arab ports unless given our permission,after several months of highly restricted port traffic surly thier food stocks will be hit hard.Basically we need to starve the fuckers into submission.If that dosn't work then it may well be time for the ICBMs to show allah and his boys who the real power of the world is. |
| Posted by: Shep UK 2004-05-16 5:05:19 AM |
| #10 I don't care if Allan is displeased with me because he isn't my God or even a god! |
| Posted by: Jen 2004-05-16 4:28:53 AM |
| #9 Let's take a lesson in elementary Arabic. Islam means submission, not peace. The word word peace is Salam. |
| Posted by: JFM 2004-05-16 3:42:11 AM |
| #8 Jen, Lucky and Robert: May Allah be displeased with you. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html |
| Posted by: Muslim Lover 2004-05-16 2:18:50 AM |
| #7 Islam isn't peace. Islam is submission. I had never heard anyone define Islam as "peace" until 9/11. Since then, I've gotten sick of hearing that, particularly in face of the constant evidence that it Just Ain't So. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-05-16 1:28:35 AM |
| #6 Ya know, Muslim Lover, I wouldn't get my hopes up...it's been quite a while since President Bush made a speech like that. If you love Islam and you want it to be about Peace, instead of leaving people in Pieces, then you'd better get busy and *purge* the radicals from your midst for good and all or else a few thousand jihadis will give the rest of you peace-lovers a bad enough name to get the entire religion banned worldwide permanently. |
| Posted by: Jen 2004-05-16 1:16:39 AM |
| #5 Muslim Lover, pure fake bullshit. Take your lame ass crap and sell it in Egypt. You'll do well there. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-05-16 12:49:32 AM |
| #4 Together, we could start a global movement against all kinds of abuse, extremism and terror. OK. Let's start with a global condemnation of Saudi Arabia. . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-05-16 12:49:19 AM |
| #3 And there you have it. We don't belong, we don't know the brotheren. And BTW, sometimes a post goes to a black hole. Must be frightening to some. Might cause a distraction. Could be bad for the kids. The old folks could be made uncomfortable. Shame on me. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-05-16 12:43:05 AM |
| #2 "Islam is Peace" Says President Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., September 16, 2001 THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much for your hospitality. We've just had wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens. These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that. The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule. The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war. When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race... Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America. That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value. I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America. Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior. This is a great country. It's a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth. And it is my honor to be meeting with leaders who feel just the same way I do. They're outraged, they're sad. They love America just as much as I do. |
| Posted by: Muslim Lover 2004-05-16 12:41:53 AM |
| #1 Somebody should tell Dr. Bullshit that the tides are turning and pretty soon he will hear from the American Street. If he thinks that The US Army is deadly and ruthless, wait until he gets a taste of the American Street! |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-05-16 12:40:02 AM |