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Home Front: Politix
WH says documents show U.S. didn’t approve torture
2004-06-23
Washington has release declassified memos on prisoner interrogation techniques approved for use in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad. The White House says the papers will answer criticism by showing that U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld rejected the use of more aggressive methods. Among the tortures he turned down was one known as "water boarding," a practice in which wet towels or water are used to make a prisoner feel as if he is suffocating. Officials say Rumsfeld only approved what was called "mild non-injurious physical contact."...But at least one administration critic, Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy, said the Bush camp was still "stonewalling" and described the hundreds of pages of documents as "a small subset of the documents that offers glimpses into the genesis of this scandal."
...genesis of this scandal, of which you will care nothing about after the election, Mr. Senator.
Posted by:Rafael

#23  Why hasn't Mike "I only care that we get good information" Sylwester bothered to comment here?

My theory? This story destroys his position, so he's ignoring it.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-06-23 11:12:36 PM  

#22  Cry 'Havoc'and let slip the lawyers of war..

(I know... someday I'll come up with one that works...)
Posted by: Pappy   2004-06-23 11:08:30 PM  

#21  Letting lawyers run a war -- a good idea?
Posted by: virginian   2004-06-23 7:31:59 PM  

#20  Please no happy hand grenande jokes....
aw hell....
somebody hit it!
Posted by: Shipman   2004-06-23 3:01:44 PM  

#19  One, two, five!
Posted by: Dar   2004-06-23 1:40:23 PM  

#18  how many electoral votes in Vermont?

The number to be counted to shall be... three!

Sen. Leahy, please shut your god damned mouth. Got any new secrets you'd like to leak out of committee, asshat?
Posted by: Raj   2004-06-23 12:58:37 PM  

#17  CNN Retracts Rumsfeld Allegation
Posted by: Dragon Fly   2004-06-23 12:45:07 PM  

#16  Valentine: ares 'is' our friend too
Posted by: Dcreeper   2004-06-23 11:23:59 AM  

#15  Valentine: good call - coffee alert!!! bwahahahaha
Posted by: Anon1   2004-06-23 9:05:51 AM  

#14  As I was turning the TV off to go to work this morning the guy on Foc News was holding up a newspaper with the headline "Rumsfeld Ordered Harsh Treatment" and then debunked the article. The headline was supposedly based on the recently released documents. I didn't catch the newspaper's name, darn it. This is why I have a very hard time believing anything in newspapers any more.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2004-06-23 7:24:51 AM  

#13  The idiots at Abu Ghraib were disobeying orders, not following them. What a pity you haven't bothered to read any of the facts of the case.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-06-23 7:13:25 AM  

#12  #7, spaces is our friend (and in your case...mebbe ritalin too)
Posted by: Valentine   2004-06-23 5:52:57 AM  

#11  I agree, #3. I would have expected more from Rummy. Water simulated torture is good by me and by most Americans, I would wager. Like Senator Leahy from Vermont[how many electoral votes in Vermont?] represents anyone with an iota of common sense...are there any GI's from Vermont? Howard Dean is the only person I can associate with Vermont and that's a rather damning association...
Posted by: rex   2004-06-23 3:04:21 AM  

#10  Master smnnnn! Thank you! You're so obvious! And rightly! So! Excellent turd, thank you. Thank you very much!
Posted by: .com   2004-06-23 2:16:21 AM  

#9  Obviously, anyone with an IQ over 122 will realize that "torture" as defined in "W's" mind, was none of the coersion 'ordered' at Abu Graib!
Posted by: smn   2004-06-23 2:13:02 AM  

#8  Liar? Lets hear it!
Posted by: Lucky   2004-06-23 2:00:49 AM  

#7  bushissuchalar!!whenheandrumsfeldsaynotheymeanyes!
Posted by: Comment Top   2004-06-23 1:58:32 AM  

#6  No, Bush didn't lie. Read the article and related AP articles; Bush specifically stated that torture was unacceptable, and he said so at the time, not just recently. Please point out the "lie" to us.
Posted by: Steve White   2004-06-23 1:47:21 AM  

#5  Wow. 3 Turds in 6 minutes. That's why smnnnnn is a Master. Deeply colorfully. More!
Posted by: .com   2004-06-23 1:46:52 AM  

#4  Although I know my boy "W" lied on this matter, I still respect and agree with his resolve; you just gotta love this "plausible deniability"!!
Posted by: smn   2004-06-23 1:43:54 AM  

#3  But anyway,
Donald Rumsfeld rejected the use of more aggressive methods
Why on earth did he do that?
Posted by: someone   2004-06-23 12:24:34 AM  

#2  What scandal, you lame twit (Leahy)? Abu Ghraib is a case of criminal acts dealt with by internal investigation and courts martial -- none of it sparked or materially affected by media, senators, or the ICRC. Criminal violations elsewhere are, uh, criminal violations. No cover-up, no foot-dragging, no b.s., no nothing -- where's the scandal?
Posted by: Verlaine   2004-06-23 12:24:08 AM  

#1  Mike Sylwester, pick up your courtesy phone.
Posted by: someone   2004-06-23 12:23:01 AM  

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