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Binny on his death bed?
2004-07-18
Fox News is reporting Binny's on his death bed. He had an operation on his kidneys in April, in Quetta. Sounds like organ rejection. Zawahiri's said to be in charge. More as it comes...
Posted by:Fred

#24  i am look all day for something and not see it. this in just full of shit news report again.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-07-18 11:23:49 PM  

#23  Any word on what might have ruined the old kidneys?

According to Dr. Zebra[pen name of a real doctor], OBL suffered from diabetes which is often associated with a subsequent onset of kidney disease. Patients on dialysis sometimes have a "frosting over" of their appearance.
http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/a_binladen.htm#1
A slim biography, published in Egypt in 1991 reported that about 1987 bin Laden had health problems that: He suffered from low blood pressure, which was treated by an Egyptian doctor from Peshawar, and diabetes, for which he received insulin shots.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/?related
Dr.Gupta in a CNN interview: You can look [at pictures from a December 2001 video] and notice that he has what some doctors refer to as sort of a frosting over of his features -- his sort of grayness of beard, his paleness of skin, very gaunt sort of features. A lot of times people associate this with chronic illness. Doctors can certainly look at that and determine some clinical features. But even more than that, it's sometimes possible to differentiate the specific type of disease or illness that he may be suffering from. The sort of frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that.

A dialysis machine needs electricity and a patient needs to have dialysis at minimum once every 3 days, which made me doubt the story that we killed OBL in a cave in Afghanistan. More likely he was living in Pakistan or perhaps Iran in close proximity to doctors and a dialysis machine.

Dialysis means end stage kidney disease so the rumor that OBL had to have a kidney transplant operation recently rings true. That OBL likely suffered from diabetes too,would put him at a very great risk for not surviving the transplant intervention.
Posted by: rex   2004-07-18 9:29:15 PM  

#22  There have been reports that Binny's kidney have been failing for at least two years now, some from pretty reliable sources.
Posted by: Fred   2004-07-18 9:07:02 PM  

#21  Any word on what might have ruined the old kidneys? Too much radioactive dust? Sniffed one to many organophosphates?
Posted by: Brutus   2004-07-18 8:50:10 PM  

#20  Too bad we don't have an address to forward him a Get Dead card.
Posted by: Capt America   2004-07-18 4:41:22 PM  

#19  I have never understood the purpose of the GG.

Representative for the Queen of England (as the head of state). I don't know about Australia but Canada is not a republic.
Posted by: RW   2004-07-18 4:31:40 PM  

#18  Follow the money. OBL (UBL) was just the paymaster for this freakshow. I guess for most jihadis the paymaster is the spiritual leader. I think if we didn't put UBL into the food chain at Tora Bora, we at least significantly shortened his life span. Look for the announcement of his demise in August between the conventions.
Posted by: RWV   2004-07-18 3:59:09 PM  

#17  Would Zawahiri or Zarqawi be the next leader?

According to Some Guy on Fox Last Night, Bin Laden's just the "spiritual leader", and if he dies, a new one must be chosen. This would make Bin Laden similar to the Governor General of Canada or Australia, while Zawahiri is the PM. I have never understood the purpose of the GG.

Zawahiri would remain operational commander. Since Zarqawi is more of a hands-on guy, I suspect his status would not change. He might have other ideas though.

I hope VNP (#11) is right. I'd hate to think Bin Laden managed to be hospitalized in Quetta without us knowing it. If Bin Laden has been decomposing all this long while, why is now the time to announce it?
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2004-07-18 2:55:34 PM  

#16  #3 DPA - Not painful enough.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-07-18 2:24:44 PM  

#15  hmmmm Iran doesn't have adequate healthcare for him?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-07-18 12:32:19 PM  

#14  "Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood." -- Vincent from "Pulp Fiction."
Posted by: nada   2004-07-18 12:26:02 PM  

#13  I say we send our deepest regrets once he passes into hell . . . and a tray of ham 'n' bacon to the funeral.
Posted by: The Doctor   2004-07-18 12:09:58 PM  

#12  I'm one of the few people who thinks it might be good if Osama lives. That way he ties a lot of potential terrorist resources tending to his bedpan.
Posted by: mhw   2004-07-18 12:05:29 PM  

#11  Maybe.......Binny has been dead a long time. Since Tora Bora. But the 'Slims don't want to give the West credit for sending Osalami to his raisins. We also have no interest in revealing that the terrorist follower of the child molester/prophet is a Krispy Korpse. That is until the offensive against Iran and Syria begins. Then it won't matter who knows.
Posted by: Victory Now Please   2004-07-18 10:58:06 AM  

#10  But... but... I though Osama was kept chained in a cage below the white house, to be exhibited at the coming republican convention!?
Posted by: Anonymous5089   2004-07-18 10:50:04 AM  

#9  I'm ever the realist Steve. The proper question might not be, "How big?" but, "How many?"
Posted by: AzCat   2004-07-18 2:52:12 AM  

#8  Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American   2004-07-18 1:20:09 AM  

#7  ima have all fingers and toes crossed. ima hoping this true.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-07-18 1:09:55 AM  

#6  If Binny dies before November’s election, Bush will win a new term. If Binny dies after November’s election, Kerry will win. Can someone tell me who really controls the US?
Posted by: Anonymous1997   2004-07-18 1:09:44 AM  

#5  What an evil thought, AzCat, cheez ... hmmmm ... what kind of yield do we need to be sure?
Posted by: Steve White   2004-07-18 1:01:25 AM  

#4  If we were to nuke the funeral we could solve most of the world's problems....
Posted by: AzCat   2004-07-18 12:57:06 AM  

#3  That would be awesome if true... what a painful way to go.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American   2004-07-18 12:52:40 AM  

#2  Sounds too good to be true, but keep the fat lady on standby...
Posted by: PBMcL   2004-07-18 12:48:02 AM  

#1  Would Zawahiri or Zarqawi be the next leader?

Zarqawi seems to have gained enough notoriety points in Iraq to be atleast as *famous* as Zawahiri and probably more so. The best possible outcome would probably be an Al Qaeda "civil war" (so to speak) if the two of them are roughly equal in influence and ambition.

Though I suppose Zarqawi may possibly be too tied up in Iraq to be a leader for the entire global loose network.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-07-18 12:38:19 AM  

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