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| Arabs rally to Sudan as world condemns it |
| 2004-07-28 |
| Arabs have rallied to the Sudanese government, denying it is responsible for what the US Congress has called a campaign of genocide against Africans in the western region of Darfur. Even those who criticise Sudan's authoritarian regime say the West is mishandling the Darfur issue at a time when Arabs are fearful that the United States plans to follow its invasion of Iraq with an attempt to remake the region. Amid the international outcry over the killing of up to 30,000 people and displacement of an estimated 2.2 million in Darfur over the past 15 months, the Arab League has remained largely silent. The main regional group traditionally does not criticise one of its own. Sudan is among the league's 22 members. "The Arab League doesn't accept the imposition of sanctions, especially in Sudan, because it will serve no purpose. On the contrary, it will complicated the situation," league spokesman Hossam Zaki told The Associated Press yesterday. "More time must be given to Sudanese government to carry out its promises and it must be given the chance." Arab heavyweight Egypt also has criticised talk of sanctions and called on the world to give Sudan more time and help to restore peace in Darfur. In Jordan, the Muslim Brotherhood has speculated rightwing Christians in the United States are trying to use the Darfur issue to justify the division of Sudan, leading to the "fragmentation" of the Arab and Muslim world. |
| Posted by:TS(vice girl) |
| #26 "... it was the responsibility of the Arab/Muslim world to intervene and provide a resolution." I think the phrase he was searching for was Final Solution. |
| Posted by: Jackal 2004-07-28 4:38:29 PM |
| #25 LH-My sense was the same as yours, but yesterday I saw a news article (and now of course I can't find it) that had a little snippet making it sound like Chad wasn't quite the eager helping hand we'd thought. Since I can't find it, I attached this website address which has some interesting news story links. http://www.sudantribune.com |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-07-28 2:58:19 PM |
| #24 anyone have anything on the reaction of NON-arab african muslims - my sense is that Chad is supporting of efforts to stop the genocide, as are other Sahel (black, muslim) countries. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-07-28 1:34:04 PM |
| #23 Yank, I like the idea of going to Sudan and driving the bullies north. They are scumbags and deserve all the death and destruction we can lay on them. I also think the Black muslims can be turned, freeing a large population from that faith. I think this is a great place to open the new front on jihad. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-07-28 11:56:42 AM |
| #22 hold on to your seats, this could be better then the Iraq vs Iran bout. pass the popcorn . . . . . |
| Posted by: Anonymous5075 2004-07-28 11:17:08 AM |
| #21 Africa has been mentioned numerous times as one of the future conflict areas in the war on terror. The US and allies should make a big deal out of the racial aspects of the conflict in Sudan and use it to build up credibility for our side. Personally I'd like to see the US send a check to Executive Outcomes, and have them go in and protect Dafur from the militias and allow food in until the UN can come up with a plan. Kenyan UN peacekeepers can replace the Mercs once the actual dangerous part of the mission is over. It would give the mercs some good press for a change, would show the Western World won't sit by and allow genocide. It can be done without risking American or European troops. Its a model for the future. |
| Posted by: yank 2004-07-28 11:12:43 AM |
| #20 The Arabs were big slave traders in Africa as were the English. Wonder why there's so many blacks in the US and so few in Arab lands? |
| Posted by: Mr. Davis 2004-07-28 10:58:16 AM |
| #19 #4 The Arab world is enveloped in pure hate for anything non-Islamic... Not only that, but incredibly racist against fellow Muslims with dark skin. When liberals complain about how racist America is, I chuckle and think, you better travel a bit more, mate. You have no IDEA how racist the rest of the world STILL is. A nice vacation in a place like Darfur, where they can run into corpses that have been burnt alive because they are BLACK Muslims, would be quite a learning experience. |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-07-28 9:30:05 AM |
| #18 And pagans. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 9:23:47 AM |
| #17 Y'know, I've noticed lately that 'rightwing Christians' have been joining Zionists in Islamofascist rantings. Wondering if the Izzoids ever read Revelations... No, they're just playing up to the Left. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-07-28 9:23:05 AM |
| #16 ...Y'know, I've noticed lately that 'rightwing Christians' have been joining Zionists in Islamofascist rantings. Wondering if the Izzoids ever read Revelations... Mike |
| Posted by: Mike Kozlowski 2004-07-28 9:21:35 AM |
| #15 The Islamofascists will rue the day they started this war. And so will all the supposedly well-adjusted western muslims who express ambivalence ('Well if it wasn't for the Palestinian problem none of this would have happened...') over 9/11, Madrid, Bali (and Darfur). Bastards. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 8:09:22 AM |
| #14 We have to have a real Pearl Harbor or invasion of Poland to get the Anglo Anerican juices flowing so that we can do what we do better than anyone else...conquer. If we could produce that fervor at will the rest of the world would not stand for us. But since we are so reluctant to let the blood rise, they are more tolerant of our actions when it does. The Islamofascists will rue the day they started this war. |
| Posted by: Mr. Davis 2004-07-28 8:01:34 AM |
| #13 Ex-Lib - check the Bradford riots (pre-9/11). We're not all woolly headed liberals - neither are we all National Front thugs, but we do know when an immigrant community is taking the piss. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 7:30:47 AM |
| #12 Also: this is why you can't trust the Islamofacist Arabs. It would be one thing if they'd actually go in and DO something about the problems in Sudan, but they're just wanting the US and the Christian West (or post-Christian West-- which is just as good to them, in fact, better) OUT of the situation, so they can carry on business "as usual." They are quite emboldened, of late (compared with 5 years ago), and it only points to a perception of "Arab victory" after the Towers, Madrid, Fallujah, etc. They believe they can win, over the long-haul. I hate to say it, but Howard's right about WWIII looming on the horizon. The time to act is now. The Arab threat must be eliminated as soon as possible. Bush and Blair seem to be the only ones with the balls to take them on. Things will get very strange if they're not around. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2004-07-28 7:01:41 AM |
| #11 "Things WILL change however, if minorities keep pushing their luck. " Howard UK: So the Brits do have a line somewhere in the sand? |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2004-07-28 6:53:56 AM |
| #10 One problem in the UK is that there's no mainstream political voice to represent the Brits who are fed-up with PC and the multicultural agenda. As soon as a party expresses such views it is lynched by the leftist press. Both Tories and Labour are forced to maintain the multi-culti status quo. Things WILL change however, if minorities keep pushing their luck. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 6:26:34 AM |
| #9 *grinding teeth* I fear you're (both) right. Same goes for the US - especially if Kerry wins. If Howard loses, as well -- wow. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-28 6:06:53 AM |
| #8 Howard don't you think the PC types will insist nothing be done and the U.K. should just lay there and take it for "the past sins of the empire?" I go to the BBC online everyday and get BBC world news on my satelite. If the BBC is a refelection of PC in the U.K. your screwed no matter how many folks get killed. Many other online publications out of the U.K. reflect this same mind set as well. |
| Posted by: FlameBait93268 2004-07-28 5:54:06 AM |
| #7 I am largely ridiculed amongst friends for thinking that a thirld world war fought along cultural divisions is under way. Sadly, i don't think we'll wake up until we're scraping the remains of our relatives off the pavement and into plastic bags. Too many PC types are yet to have their minds changed - but I do think a change will ultimately come due to the ludicrous logic of Sakrani et al., the official representatives of Islam in the UK - and then we'll be faced with the problem of mass repatriation. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 5:23:19 AM |
| #6 Howard (UK) - Do you see any hope of the UK realizing the threat, short of a mass killing? Will one be enough there? I see the denial here - and we were hit 15x harder than Madrid and in the most symbolic way imaginable, yet look at this election... |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-28 5:09:12 AM |
| #5 May I just add, as an apoplectic Brit, that we had the Head of The Muslim Council of Britain (Iqbal Sakrani??) on the wireless the other day - saying that the West had no right to interfere in Darfur - he conceded that what was happening was 'a tragedy' but that it was the responsibility of the Arab/Muslim world to intervene and provide a resolution. [I will try to dig out the link to the radio programme]. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from a man who has been so vociferous in his protests concerning Islamophobiain the UK/ Guantanamo - I hope he continues in this rich vein of form because he's managing to destroy the reputation of all Muslims in the UK. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-28 4:45:59 AM |
| #4 The Arab world is enveloped in pure hate for anything non-Islamic making them the world's most dangerous threat since the Nazis. |
| Posted by: Mark Espinola 2004-07-28 3:49:41 AM |
| #3 "Arabs rally to Sudan as world condemns it" Well of course they do! They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity! Someday, as rex alludes, we'll cut off the money and I'll add that we'll take their terror-funding oil sands away from them as they just can't figure out this "play nice" shit. Then, in a seething, then starving heap, the whole fucking lot will implode. I'll save a tear. Just one. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-28 2:57:03 AM |
| #2 Arab heavyweight Egypt ???? Huh ???? If Egypt is as good as it gets for the Arab World in terms of flexing its collective muscle, mano a mano, all I can say is...he, he, he...give me a friggin' break...heavyweight my foot...were it not for US and EU dole, Egyptians would be starving in the streets if left to their own "resourcefulness"... |
| Posted by: rex 2004-07-28 2:10:56 AM |
| #1 The a-rab world must be "SEETHING"! |
| Posted by: anymouse 2004-07-28 1:59:14 AM |