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30 Iranians, 2 trucks loaded with weapons captured en route to Sadr
2004-08-13
Security officials in Baghdad were last night urgently investigating the background of 30 Iranians who were caught fighting for a rebel Shia cleric in Iraq, amid mounting concern over the involvement of the Tehran regime in the uprising. The Guardian has learned that the most senior members of the Iraqi government were briefed about the capture of the men yesterday, and also told of other evidence that fighters and equipment have been crossing the border from Iran. The 30 men were captured in the southern city of Kut on Wednesday and officials are trying to establish whether they have any links to Tehran. "We are checking their identities but if they are found to have links to the Iranians then that would be tantamount to a declaration of war by them," said a senior Iraqi source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
It would be that, now wouldn't it.
The source said members of Iraq's national security committee had yesterday been presented "with revealing information about the extent of Iranian involvement in Iraqi affairs", which was being taken seriously at the "highest echelons of government". There was increasing frustration "at our neighbour's apparent indifference to cross-border security, despite promises of cooperation".
What's the matter, you guys haven't been lied to before?
Posted by:Dan Darling

#25  Oh God...Murat and Gentle in one day. Of course it IS Friday the 13th.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T.   2004-08-13 5:21:32 PM  

#24  Somebody say AVG? I can get a 30 day leave from hell anytime I need to, me and scratch are tight. Wait a second! Evidently I'm still alive!
Posted by: Tex Hill   2004-08-13 2:11:41 PM  

#23  RELAX!

Just the Iranian Olympic shooting team doing training on the road as they drive to Athens!

On the road again. . ..dum-de-dum
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-13 1:24:09 PM  

#22  Poor Iraq,

almost the entire Islamic world (Kuwait seems to be on their side) is to be against them becoming a successful democracy ---

the other Islamic states openly try to save the neck of Bandits like Sadr (the Arab League); or even subsidize him (like Iran)

the BBC and Al Jazera and the NYTimes and the faculty newsletter at UC Berkeley openly route for dead Iraqi

the Sunni imans of the triangle try to sabotage the govt.

if the Iraqis succeed despite this, they are going to be a superpower one day
Posted by: mhw   2004-08-13 1:22:57 PM  

#21  Capt. America -- It was just the al-Griswold family on vacation.
Posted by: Tibor   2004-08-13 12:02:33 PM  

#20   If you want proof, just try searching "Istanbul Iran" right here on Rantburg. But by all means, don't take my word for it, take the word of your own MIT.
Posted by: Dan Darling   2004-08-13 11:15:07 AM  

#19  Dang! I had forgotten that RC's is secretly the Bedwettian.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-08-13 10:22:08 AM  

#18  Hey, Murat. You ever gonna get the proof you said you had that I'm a Kurd?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-08-13 8:30:43 AM  

#17  Murat, you might want to brush up on your English. "Allegation" implies lack of proof. It is the rhetorical position taken prior to the presentation of proof, or lack thereof.

And many allegations against the Iraqi regime prior to the war have been borne out. Mass graves, torture, collaboration with various terrorist groups, preparation for the violation of the Geneva conventions, illegal traffic in banned missiles, bioweapons research, concealment of equipment for nuclear weapons research, oil smuggling, Oil for Food corruption on a massivew scale. Please don't inflate two unsustained allegations - biochemical stockpiles and ongoing nuclear weapons research - into "most". It really isn't.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2004-08-13 8:17:49 AM  

#16  Reuters and Al Jiz just flashed a bulletin that GW and Cheney were driving the lead trucks...the rest were Israeli.
Posted by: anymouse   2004-08-13 8:08:46 AM  

#15  None of the allegations, Murat?
You must be talking about the WMDs...
All the world knows is that Saddam had them and then they weren't in Iraq when we got there, at least not that where we've looked so far.
Iran is behind a lot of the Islamist terrorism and what they're not behind, the Waahabs from Saudi are.
Posted by: GreatestJeneration   2004-08-13 4:32:27 AM  

#14  Didn't the nuts that bombed Istanbul get support and funding from Iran?

Don't know, do you have proof? Like I said, Iran is no angel but when it comes to believe all those news I have my doubts, none of the allegations towards Iraq before the war started came out true.
Posted by: Murat   2004-08-13 3:37:18 AM  

#13  Iran's being punted till November 3...
Posted by: someone   2004-08-13 3:34:27 AM  

#12   Murat - Didn't the nuts that bombed Istanbul get support and funding from Iran? One would think that Turkey would have a stake in going after these people ...
Posted by: Dan Darling   2004-08-13 3:29:08 AM  

#11  Heck I sure don't Super Hose.
Bombs away!
Posted by: Flamebait93268   2004-08-13 3:12:57 AM  

#10  Why would we need an excuse to bomb Iran?
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-13 2:28:07 AM  

#9  Lost vacationers, or CIA preparing an excuse to bomb Iran, lately there are lots of allegations like Iran is funding Al Qaeda & harboring terrorists. Not that Iran is an angel but neither is the CIA, don't know what to believe.
Posted by: Murat   2004-08-13 2:26:54 AM  

#8  Any news about the truck full of explosives seized in Chicago that was driven by a white Christian supremacist?
Posted by: Rick   2004-08-13 2:26:54 AM  

#7  Lost vacationers?
Posted by: Capt America   2004-08-13 2:00:49 AM  

#6  Toppling Iran is funky. But some sort of pressure should be applied. Iran needs to have it's energy focused on their own survival. A push on their border. Covert attacks on cadres. some interdiction on Brigades.

By turning the mullahs into paranoid reactionary coke heads, they will be less able to fund the perps that are causing so much trouble.

This is a very tricky time.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-08-13 1:06:33 AM  

#5  Nope, the way to handle Iran is to persuade their population to overthrow the mullahs. Our military can't invade Iran right now, we don't have the means. Get the Iranians to do their own heavy lifting.
Posted by: Steve White   2004-08-13 12:53:29 AM  

#4  It would be nice to see the hammer fall on Iran - and on Syria, while we are at it. I bet that we would see a remarkable calming of activity in Iraq, if the Iranians were busy defending their own turf, deep insude Iran. Back in an earlier stage of life, I remember doing detailed plans for a parachute assault onto Isfahan airbase (yeah, it's THAT kind of Ranger)- so I know that we have some great plans in store - just waiting to take the gloves off.

Just think of the problems that could be addressed; "insurgency" in Iraq, nuclear weapons development, long-range missile development, oil supplies.

Compared to the case for invading Iraq, the case for dismantling Iran looks 10 times more compelling. Plus - we're already on a war footing within the region.

My only concern is ammunition supplies - let's make sure we have enough to martyr the entire male population.

At minimum, I hope America's clandestine services are hard at work cranking up local dissent inside Iran.

And - shoot - seeing as they all already hate Israel 110%, what does Israel have to lose by leveling Iran's nuke complex? Let's pile on.

Anything has to be better than slowly being bled to death by a million tiny cuts.
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2004-08-13 12:50:44 AM  

#3  Perhaps it's time for AVG,the Sequel.

(Historical note.Prior to Pearl Harbor attack,Pres.Roosevelt authorized transfer of US aircraft to China and allowed US citizens to be recruited to fly and maintain a/c.AVG=American Volunteer Group,aka the Flying Tigers.Little known is that Pres.Roosevelt was going to allow transfer of B-17s to China as stocks of B-17s grew.They were to be used to bomb Japan itself.)
Posted by: Stephen   2004-08-13 12:38:02 AM  

#2  Let 'em go...it's obvious they're the touring company for "Pilgrimpalooza!" Early reviews of this production say it's "Explosive!" and "Packs a Powerful Punch!"
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-08-13 12:30:22 AM  

#1  30 Iranians. How many others have the ruling mullahs infiltrated into various portions of Shi'ite Iraq?
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-08-13 12:29:07 AM  

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