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| Fierce fighting erupts in Najaf | |
| 2004-08-17 | |
| via Al Rooters - EFL U.S. troops and Shi'ite militiamen have battled in the holy Iraqi city of Najaf only hours after political and religious leaders in Baghdad agreed to make a last-ditch appeal for peace. Broadening their uprising from the urban battlefield in Najaf and seven other cities, the Mehdi Army of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr set an oil well on fire in southern Iraq, the government said on Monday. Iraqis meeting to pick an interim national assembly in Baghdad said they would send a delegation to Najaf to try to convince Sadr to end a conflict that has killed hundreds and
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| Posted by:.com |
| #21 ollie, ollie oxen free.... looks like tater doesn't understand the American way! |
| Posted by: B 2004-08-17 5:12:19 PM |
| #20 Sounds to me like Tater wants the american and Iraqi forces to leave (and give Najaf back to his Iranian-backed tater-tots) before he will even talk. I hope they are not considering giving in to that demand. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-08-17 5:10:07 PM |
| #19 good news! Tater refused to meet with them.. Kill.Him.Now. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-17 5:01:22 PM |
| #18 The best outcome would be for the Shia negotiators to reject Tater's demands as unreasonable,.. That would be great, but can't be counted on to happen. Quite frankly, I would not be surprised at all if, in the event this attempt to negotiate fails, that even more negotiations will be attempted. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and it needs to be made clear that crossing that line WILL result in swift and decisive action, no matter what Sadr's thugs have done to the mosque he's holed up in. This also needs to be presented by the government to the Iraqi public and driven home that if anything happens to the mosque, it will be on Sadr's shoulders that all blame will be laid, and his head on which the hammer will fall. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-17 4:41:19 PM |
| #17 me 2 - oh, and all his thugs get dirtnaps too. They're so close to that cemetary, why procrastinate? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-17 1:59:10 PM |
| #16 agree with B |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-08-17 1:46:56 PM |
| #15 The best outcome would be for the Shia negotiators to reject Tater's demands as unreasonable, Tater to be killed in the taking of the mosque and the mosque to remain unharmed. |
| Posted by: B 2004-08-17 1:20:26 PM |
| #14 The members of the convention - or some of them, at any rate - implicitly dont trust Allawi, and have to send their own guys to see what Sadr would agree to. The crux of the matter here is that Sadr is in no position to agree on anything. Sadr is not the representative of the Shiites of Iraq; his only advantage is that he has armed followers that are willing to commit violence on his behalf. People like that are best taken down promptly and forcefully, without "negotiating" anything. The sooner people over there realize this, the sooner they can dispense with the idea of talks and get on with the task of removing this potential threat to Iraqi stability. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-17 12:50:48 PM |
| #13 they already TRIED the talking route Different "they". Allawis govt already tried the talking route. The members of the convention - or some of them, at any rate - implicitly dont trust Allawi, and have to send their own guys to see what Sadr would agree to. Not that I think its a good idea - I dont think bringing a guy who murdered a political adversary into a nascent democracy is a good thing. Besides, i dont think they can make a deal with Sadr - clearly the minimum govt position is Sadr leaving the shrine, but he WONT leave it till he as iron clad guarantees against being arrested in future, and the delegation from the convention cant give such guarantees. I hope meanwhile the Iraqi army units are using the time for training, preparation, etc. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-08-17 10:02:56 AM |
| #12 AC - spot on, that man. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-08-17 4:06:13 AM |
| #11 the Mehdi Army of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr set an oil well on fire in southern Iraq Garsh, just like Saddam! Great thugs think alike! |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-08-17 1:47:54 AM |
| #10 AC - Awesome. Simply perfect. Kudos! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-17 1:14:49 AM |
| #9 BTW, creatures like the hypocrite and terror-shill/liar Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR should be the first to go, followed quickly by any Guardianista or similar media beast or academic dhimmi-lord who is so foolish as to be caught in the same general area as a rope and a lamppost. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-08-17 1:10:55 AM |
| #8 Our behavior in Najaf essentially concedes the global Mohammedan death cult's demand that its terrorists be allowed sanctuary in their pigsty "holy places." At the same time, the Mo-heathens are under no obligation to recognize any kind of sanctuary in the holy places of others, as the much-cheered desecration of the Church of the Nativity and frequent attacks on synagogues attest. To the death cultists, our acquiesance to this demonic hypocricy is simply a sign of weakness, a concession of dhimmitude. They are animals, and their supporters in the west are devils, not deserving of the air they breathe and the ground they occupy. This war will end only one way, with one side or the other completely exterminated. The Mohammedan savages and their sycophants leave us no choice. The sooner we recognize this the better. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-08-17 1:08:17 AM |
| #7 I was referring to the Al' Guardian link in my post above. |
| Posted by: B 2004-08-17 12:57:47 AM |
| #6 heh, heh... the article sounds sooo desperate. Like a child stamping his foot and throwing a tantrum that's not getting mommy's attention, it's clear that the pro-Sadar forces are going to have to deal with the fact that mommy's busy with the new baby and just isn't going to give attention to the antics like she used to. |
| Posted by: B 2004-08-17 12:46:46 AM |
| #5 Um, no, Sargeant First-Class Tyrone. He's a lifer and he takes good care of the LT :-) |
| Posted by: Steve White 2004-08-17 12:34:12 AM |
| #4 Iraqis meeting to pick an interim national assembly in Baghdad said they would send a delegation to Najaf to try to convince Sadr to end a conflict that has killed hundreds and undermined the authority of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. Nonononononono, wait a minute, they already TRIED the talking route. Enough. Have U.S. forces back off a bit, then send Iraqi commandos into the mosque to put a bullet into Sadr's forehead. Then drag his body outside, videotape it, and make it nice and clear that the same fate awaits any "leader" that is caught fomenting unrest. Period. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-17 12:27:34 AM |
| #3 "...Iran asked the United Nations to help stop the bloodshed..." ...cuz all our guys are gettin' whacked! |
| Posted by: PBMcL 2004-08-17 12:24:27 AM |
| #2 Side Note: You may enjoy this Al Guardian piece US loses big in Najaf Resistance in the holy city has proven that the US won't allow democracy in Iraq By Kamil Mahdi THE GUARDIAN , London Tuesday, Aug 17, 2004,Page 9 There is a certain entertainment value to it. I guess, having the same name as Tater's Tots has given Kamil a sense of Another recent piece Let's face up to it - we are torturers too Yes, lets us self-flagellate, emulating our betters... |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-17 12:22:31 AM |
| #1 That's PVT. Tyrone ,by the way. |
| Posted by: crazyhorse 2004-08-17 12:22:13 AM |
