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| US public now evenly split on Iraq war |
| 2004-08-18 |
| Nine months of chaos and casualties in Iraq since Saddam Hussein's capture have taken a heavy toll on American opinion of President Bush's decision to go to war. Last December, when Saddam was caught, public support for Bush was 2-to-1 in favor. Now the public is evenly divided on whether the war was the right thing to do or whether it was a mistake. Older people, minorities, people with lower incomes, residents of the Northeast and Catholics are among those increasingly skeptical of the war effort, according to Associated Press polling. These shifts in public sentiment reflect the difficulties in Iraq — including a death toll nearing 1,000 U.S. soldiers, the violent insurgency against the new Iraqi government and U.S. forces and the failure to find weapons of mass destruction, which was among the central justifications for Bush's decision to go to war. "It was a mistake," said 73-year-old Mil Jenkinson, a retired schoolteacher and a Democrat from Dickinson, N.D. "There were no weapons of mass destruction. I keep thinking it's not our place to rule the world. Everyone does not think our way of life is the right way. It's arrogant of us to go into a country and tell them what kind of government to have." Hey chill out will ya, we are bringing democracy and freedom to those bastards, they will accept it if not we'll blast them! |
| Posted by:Murat |
| #26 Now ex-lib, that was cold. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-08-18 4:13:54 PM |
| #25 Hey everybody. Calm down. Remember, Murat is a member of an underdeveloped nation--backward, prejudiced, etc. When he goes to see "moving pictures," he BELIEVES what he sees, 'cuz he saw it "with his own two eyes," now, didn't he . . .? |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2004-08-18 1:29:24 PM |
| #24 Sooooo... back on topic, I hope: Older people, minorities, people with lower incomes, residents of the Northeast and Catholics are among those increasingly skeptical of the war effort, according to Associated Press polling. In other words, most groups that have a propensity to vote for DemocRATS. File this under Dog Bites Man. |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-08-18 12:36:07 PM |
| #23 Get this. Then the Turk says "Have you guys seen Fahrenheid 9/11..." *ROFLMAO* He actually BELIEVES it is a documentary. Wow. That's the funniest damn post by Murat. Ever. |
| Posted by: eLarson 2004-08-18 12:01:48 PM |
| #22 LiberalHawk: I'm sorry, but the fact that Hitler killed commies doesn't keep him from being a socialist. http://jonjayray.netfirms.com/hitler.html |
| Posted by: Asedwich 2004-08-18 11:30:03 AM |
| #21 OTOH, its still rather stupid to attack Rumsfeld for looking like a German general. Hey, I have a strong resemblence to Louis XIV, but that doesn't mean I want a return of the French monarchy (though it might be an improvement...) |
| Posted by: Pappy 2004-08-18 11:29:29 AM |
| #20 Murat: What the hell is all this? Have you been drinking? If so please turn yourself into your local imam post-haste! |
| Posted by: Secret Master 2004-08-18 11:26:48 AM |
| #19 Definition of moron: a fan of Michael Moore. Murat, you have a serious defect in critical thinking ability if you think that man presents anything resembling persuasive arguments or coherent theories. Hope you're keeping your tinfoil hat in good repair, you gullible freak. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-18 11:00:32 AM |
| #18 Smack a turk for Kurd autonomy today! |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-18 10:57:17 AM |
| #17 Murat, if you ever had any currency here, you just pissed it away. Troll. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-08-18 10:53:45 AM |
| #16 Seen it, almost fell asleep halfway through. Utterly boring. |
| Posted by: Heysenbergmayhavebeenhere 2004-08-18 10:48:04 AM |
| #15 Murat: Have you guys seen Fahrenheid 9/11, my god your president is a moron. No wonder the bUSh "can't" find Binny, never shoot your financer. Have you read Mein Kampf? Americans are mongrels and untermenschen to be exterminated like the vermin they are. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2004-08-18 10:42:43 AM |
| #14 Have you guys seen Fahrenheid 9/11, my god your president is a moron. Is this taken to mean you actually paid money to go see it? My, you're an even bigger moron than you claim GWB to be. Haaaahahahahahahaa.... |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-18 10:41:53 AM |
| #13 Yeah, some of us have seen it. Completely unimpressive. Citizen Moore can't form a decent argument. |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-08-18 10:40:41 AM |
| #12 Have you guys seen Fahrenheid 9/11, my god your president is a moron. No wonder the bUSh "can't" find Binny, never shoot your financer. |
| Posted by: Murat 2004-08-18 10:38:36 AM |
| #11 US public now evenly split on Iraq war And this means what, exactly? Regardless of one's opinion of Iraq, none of this divided opinion means that the wise course of action wouldn't be to see our efforts through. Now if you're sore at being treated as less than an ally, well, it should certainly be obvious as to why that is... |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-18 10:27:23 AM |
| #10 Virginian - the socialist element in the Nazi party was led by rivals to Hitler, who were eliminated in the "night of the long knives" in 1935. Hitler had the support of many German industrialists. And he also had the support of much of the German army high command, although they often wavered. A few aristocratic German generals were consistently anti-Hitler, but many were not. OTOH, its still rather stupid to attack Rumsfeld for looking like a German general. I mean Rummy is German by background, so what?? You could probably find a Stalinist NKVD officer of Jewish background who looks like me - despite my being a lifelong antistalinist. Attacking people because of their background or looks is racism. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-08-18 9:56:36 AM |
| #9 Funny that Murat gets his news from China Daily. Surprise, surprise... |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2004-08-18 9:49:45 AM |
| #8 This doesn't compute. The Nazis were socialists, and Rumsfeld is a capitalist. Judging by the general's aristocratic name, there's a good chance he was not a Nazi. Many of the aristocrats in the German army were anti-Nazi. |
| Posted by: virginian 2004-08-18 9:42:05 AM |
| #7 Hey, Murat, which country is it that was directly supporting a genocide-denial spam program online in the early 90s? You know, loudly, relentlessly, and robotically denying a historical mass-murder of an entire people? Armenian genocide ring a bell? Fuck off and die, Murat. Citizens of an unrepentant genocidal nation-state don't get a pass on playing the Nazi card. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2004-08-18 7:58:31 AM |
| #6 LOL Murat - It's kinda heartening that being so lame doesn't embarrass you. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-18 7:55:43 AM |
| #5 Let's tremember that Hadj Amin Hussien the so-called Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who sided with the Nazis and encouraged Muslim strocities gainst Serbs had begun his carreer during the Armenian genocide and wearing Turkish uniform. Murat next time dodn't forget to compare Bush to him. |
| Posted by: JFM 2004-08-18 7:42:11 AM |
| #4 That is a copyrighted image and needs deletion. |
| Posted by: Flamebait93268 2004-08-18 7:01:08 AM |
| #3 Murat, are you EVER going to offer your proof that I'm a Kurd? Or are you a coward as well as a hate-filled twit? |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-08-18 6:41:56 AM |
| #2 Yes Murat, lets post pictures of Nazi's and compare them to our leaders of today. Anybody have a mural of Mohammed and Fidel Castro? Or how about phrases said by the "Prophet", then by a famous criminal/dictator/murderer? You know what, I bet if we had a picture of Murat we could find a Jew in Isreal or NYC that looks just like him, thus proving Murat is Jewish! |
| Posted by: Charles 2004-08-18 5:38:04 AM |
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| Posted by: Murat 2004-08-18 5:14:42 AM |