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Kerry Remarks to VFW 105th Annual Convention
2004-08-18
Full text at the link. Just a couple of "comments". Heh heh.

"Thank you. I am proud to be a lifetime member of this organization and grateful for your continued deep commitment to veterans and to the defense and security of our nation. For more than 100 years now, you have had many distinguished veterans come before you - some Republican, some Democrat, some presidents. But as a fellow veteran, I can proudly say that there is one title that is more important than all, and that is patriot. You have all earned that title and I am proud to stand with you today."

How times have changed, eh Senator?
The Veteran of Foreign Wars made it clear yesterday that it is none too pleased with Sen. John Kerry's 1970s role in the defunct Vietnam Veterans Against the War, which, at the time, called the VFW a "a paramilitary, pro-war organization" out of touch with young veterans. Mr. Kerry was VVAW's chief spokesman during the early 1970s and is slated to make a campaign pitch today in Cincinnati to the annual convention of the VFW. Mr. Kerry, whose presidential campaign has emphasized his service as a Navy lieutenant in Vietnam, joined VVAW in 1970, after returning from Vietnam and denounced the VFW in a 1971 book. "We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' ... We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars," he wrote then. A 1971 VVAW fund-raising letter, titled "Men of Peace" and signed "yours in peace," accused the VFW and the American Legion of promoting an agenda of "world domination." A copy of the letter, obtained by The Washington Times, is part of an extensive collection of VVAW's papers in the collection of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin in Madison.
"They testify to the truth that we will never back down in defense of freedom. We will use superior military force to overcome any enemy. Let me be clear: like you, I defended this country as a young man. And I will defend it as president. I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security. And I will build a stronger American military."
Imminent threat, Senator? Gee, weren't you against preemptive action in Iraq? I guess that was before you were for it.
Posted by:Steve

#20  I know he is probably scared shitless to come to any of the VFW's I've been to in my home state.

Too many of the old guys remember his traitorous comments in 71, and us guys from the sandbox wars know his votes against in 91 and "for then against" now.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-08-18 11:25:15 PM  

#19  I see Smugley Lurch-man and, I see those vets, and I say to those Vets. RIGHT-ON!

My late father was a WWII veteran. He said little, except for when he would have a problem with the malaria he contracted on Manus Island (S Pacific) in 1944-1945. He would actually shake. He had attacks into the mid 1960's.

So when Baron von Kerrhausen says he was in Cambodia at a date known only to God, and then hear all the explanations of how impossible it was, I get steamed.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-18 7:36:41 PM  

#18  Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely.

I picture a cartoon of State Department guys milling looking like UN "genocide definition" clowns. One possibly consulting a copy of Websters as they discuss the whether the threat is "imminent."
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-18 7:20:10 PM  

#17  My liberal boss (who told me she isn't a liberal!!) told me today that she couldn't understand why, as a veteran, I wasn't supporting a military man, meaning Kerry. Before I had a chance to respond, she told me not to believe that crazy bunch of people questioning his war record. I responded..."Then how come he's had to retract his Cambodia story?" at which she got angry and said he hadn't and that she knew the truth and it wasn't what those others were saying.

This is what we're dealing with...Kerry supporters are refusing to believe anything but what Kerry says. And that worries me.

I applaud those vets who turned their backs on him today.
Posted by: AF Lady   2004-08-18 6:14:13 PM  

#16  I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.

No reason to be scared. On the other hand, I can see a reason to be laughing my head off at how gullible the voting public turned out to be, and how emasculated this nation will likely become as a result if he's voted in. If people are sold on the stupid Anybody-But-Bush mentality, fine, but don't even THINK about whining when the chickens come home to roost.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-18 6:03:24 PM  

#15  Did Kerry bring up the part where he said he would cut and run?
Posted by: Flamebait93268   2004-08-18 6:01:11 PM  

#14  thx BigEd - saved me having to figger out how to IMG SRC a link :-)
Posted by: Frank G   2004-08-18 6:00:54 PM  

#13  Try this for a hint of "response" to Kerry's remarks. They should have mooned him while they were at it!



(Yahoo)

War veterans Jere Hill, middle, from Warham, Mass., and Robert Gibson, right, from Lexington, Ky., stand with their backs turned during Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's speech at the 105th Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention in Cincinnati on Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-18 5:55:07 PM  

#12  Here's more (now up on Drudge): HTTP://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040818/480/ohdk10308181644">.

In case the link doesn't work, here's the url: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040818/480/ohdk10308181644
Posted by: Tibor   2004-08-18 5:43:32 PM  

#11  .com, I was reading this article about the speech:
"Large portions of the crowd applauded each of his many promises to protect veterans' benefits. Smaller portions vocally backed his points on Iraq and terrorism. Some veterans sat with arms folded, while others stood and clapped.
One man heckled Kerry, calling him a liar.
"I'll say it myself. He's a liar," said John Ranson of Fort Thomas, Ky., a 57-year-old Vietnam veteran who sat a few feet away from the heckler. He said Kerry had not supported U.S. troops as a senator or three decades ago as a returning Vietnam veteran who protested the war."
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-08-18 4:46:28 PM  

#10  I recently attended a wedding and the reception was held at the local VFW hall. I was amused to see stickers of Jane Fonda's head with crosshairs affixed to the inside of the toilet, to assist with "targeting". I'd love to witness Sen. JoKe's reaction to seeing his friend's face in the sh*tcan, and I wonder if a male version of that sticker is in the works.
Posted by: BH   2004-08-18 3:54:23 PM  

#9  "I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."

You're lying to yourself and lying to us. If lightning strikes and you end up elected, you will prove yourself famous for all time as political whore to Europe's whims and the UN's favorite American-guilt-plagued whipping boy. That's the reason the "This Land" cartoon was so funny (the one with you on your knees in S&M garb below Kofi et al)-it RINGS TRUE.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-18 3:40:06 PM  

#8  This is simply his slither to the center, I hope enough people are smart enough to see it for what it is.
You would think 20 years of being an anti-military Senator are hard to conceal.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-08-18 3:29:49 PM  

#7  badanov - You have no idea (heh) how much I hope you're right... and I won't mind helping "mop up" if it happens, heh. I'll even provide escort duty - to the border of their choice.
Posted by: .com   2004-08-18 1:56:57 PM  

#6  I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.

Ain't no thang. And all ya gotta do is show up at the polls in November.

Kerry has yet to present himself as anything other than an alternative to W. The left is riding high at the moment. But I really believe that W will get a super landslide in November.

THAT is when things will get skerry. The left will lose all control of their bodily functions.
Posted by: badanov   2004-08-18 1:55:02 PM  

#5  Tibor - I recall he ridiculed Bush's redeployment regards Korea - using McCain as cover who said that the NorKs really do have nukes and a reduction of troops was something like irresponsible (don't remember exact words). As if a relatively tiny number of ground troops are a deterrent to a nuke attack.

Bill - Ditto, bro.
Posted by: .com   2004-08-18 1:54:35 PM  

#4  "And I will defend it as president. I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely."

This a concern to me. I for one do not think this man is functioning on all cylinders. I also don't think he has a clue as to what his words really mean or how to act in the face of a threat. I'm not even sure Hanoi John could identify a threat. Besides all the rhetoric of the campaign it comes down to who do you feel comnfortable with in the Whitehouse. I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2004-08-18 1:47:36 PM  

#3  He's changed his tune since his acceptance speech. Surprise, surprise. .com, on the reaction of the crowd, it's easy to respond to platitudes like "veterans deserve better treatment." How did they react to criticisms of Bush and the redeployment plan?
Posted by: Tibor   2004-08-18 1:43:39 PM  

#2  I watched the speech on FoxNews - he got substantial applause on numerous occasions. I was disgusted with the audience. All hot air about how "I will do it differently, better, blah3" - with zero detail. And they applauded. I'm going to cancel my membership.
Posted by: .com   2004-08-18 1:38:59 PM  

#1  Mmmm... any word on how Sen. Kerry was recieved by the VFW audience? Judging by some of the things that some of the old Vietnam-era veterans were saying about him last week--- I was waiting for prescriptions to be filled at the BAMC pharmacy--- this might turn rather interesting.
(Wonder if security was frisking the VFW and confiscating rotten vetetables, eggs, etc?)
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2004-08-18 1:16:48 PM  

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