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| Kerry stands by '71 atrocities claim |
| 2004-08-24 |
| Posted by:Super Hose |
| #10 Headline: Kerry stands by '71 atrocities claim This is going to lose Kerry the veterans' vote. Many of them did not know of this aspect of Kerry's record. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2004-08-24 12:43:55 PM |
| #9 Sounds like typical rhetoric used today in re: Iraq No, the rhetoric in regards to Iraq is just recycled anti-Vietnam pap. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-08-24 12:11:41 PM |
| #8 "The United States must, I think, bring itself to understand that the policy of intervention that was right for Western Europe does not and cannot find the same application to the rest of the world." Ooo, BigEd, this is a good'un! Political pundits- fire when ready. |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-08-24 12:09:12 PM |
| #7 We need to look at his "ORATION" to the Yale class of 1966. I see snippets here and there. . . This will give an insight into his mindset, and his heavy emphasis on I have committed atrocities, IN THAT... This emphasis he used means something. . . From 1966 Yale Speech , a couple of quotes nj.com Where we should have instructed, it seems we did not, where we should have been patient, it seems we were not; where we should have stayed clear, it seems we would not. ... Never in the last 20 years has the government of the United States been as isolated as it is today." Sounds like typical rhetoric used today in re: Iraq "It is misleading to mention right and wrong in this issue, for the semantics of this contest often find the United States right in its wrongness and wrong in its rightness. ... Neither am I against the war itself, I am criticizing the propensity of the United States -- the ease -- which the United States has for getting into this kind of situation." Yes, but the US thru Johnson and McNamara didn't really fight to win, partially because of what YOU did when YOU returned. And from this link : Boston Globe "What was an excess of isolationism has become an excess of interventionism, and this Vietnam War has found our policy makers forcing Americans into a strange corner . . . that if victory escapes us, it would not be the fault of those who lead, but of the doubters who stabbed them in the back -- notions all too typical of an America that had to find Americans to blame for the takeover in China by the communists, and then for the takeover in Cuba." Why did his grand hero, the real JFK attempt the ill planned BAY OF PIGS to rid Cuba of Fidel? "The United States must, I think, bring itself to understand that the policy of intervention that was right for Western Europe does not and cannot find the same application to the rest of the world." In being ahead of his time with political correctness, he was already suggesting that democracy could only be understood by Europeans, and those of European heratige, and not by others. "We have not really lost the desire to serve. We question the very roots of what we are serving." So, before he went, he was already against the war in spite of his mild protestation that he wasn't (elsewhere above). |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-08-24 11:57:32 AM |
| #6 "I was for atrocities before I was against them, right, nurse fuzzy wuzzy?" |
| Posted by: John Fn Kerry 2004-08-24 9:17:31 AM |
| #5 Want a Democratic quagmire? Turn him over to the ICC. |
| Posted by: ed 2004-08-24 9:14:44 AM |
| #4 OpinionJournal.com has an outstanding editorial calling on Kerry to come clean with his military records, and to remind the democrats they were the ones who picked this fight to begin with. |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-08-24 1:07:56 AM |
| #3 An unequivocal Yes. Definitely Not. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-24 12:55:35 AM |
| #2 is he admitting to baby killin or what? |
| Posted by: SCpatriot 2004-08-24 12:48:15 AM |
| #1 is he admitting to baby killin or what? |
| Posted by: SCpatriot 2004-08-24 12:47:40 AM |