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Home Front: Politix
Exposed: Some snowbirds vote in NY and Fla
2004-08-24
EFL
Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city and Florida, a shocking finding that exposes both states to potential abuses that could alter the outcome of elections, a Daily News investigation shows. Registering in two places is illegal in both states, but the massive snowbird scandal goes undetected because election officials don't check rolls across state lines... The News' investigation also found:
Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party.

Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn't raise red flags with officials in either place.
Evidently, the news called some of the people for an explanation. The responses are hilarious.
Posted by:Super Hose

#14  Voting twice in the same election? Lifetime ban works for me, Barbara.

:)
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-24 2:41:47 PM  

#13  Let's not forget the homeless.

In several states, and the District of Columbia, a person's residence is where they sleep (Fisher v. Stout, 741 P.2d 217 Alaska 1987). “It need only be a specific locale within the district. The Supreme Court acknowledged that a homeless shelter or even a park bench would be sufficient”.
Posted by: RN   2004-08-24 2:36:56 PM  

#12  Jules 187 - how about FOREVER. The wankers who pull this stunt don't deserve the vote.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-08-24 2:12:45 PM  

#11  Like the idea, RJS. Add to it the loss of voting privileges for "x" amount of time.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-24 1:55:45 PM  

#10  Make it very clear that anyone who votes more than once (in the same state or in mulitiple states) has committed a felony and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Put that on the ballots, put that on the absantee ballots, put that on the application for absantee ballots and shout it from the rooftops.

Then follow up with some arrests afterwards and we can be certain 2008 will be clean.
Posted by: RJSchwarz   2004-08-24 1:26:50 PM  

#9  Following the 2000 election, there were several voting irregularities that reportedly resulted in multiple votes cast, the Florida snowbird story is only the tip of the voter fraud phenomena; consider this from our centers of higher learning:

In 2000, of the 174 Marquette (Wisconsin) students who said they voted more than once, 95 said they cast absentee ballots from their home state and in Wisconsin. And, 79 others indicated they voted more than once in Wisconsin. Those students included 13 who claimed they voted four or more times.

If there’s a question about too many fraudulent votes being cast, what about the situation where valid votes arrive to late to be counted?

Here’s just one example:

Just prior to the 2000 election deadline for absentee ballots, Cmdr. Greg Smith, a Navy spokesman, said…ballots cast by some of the 3,000 sailors and Marines remained aboard ships and will be flown back to the United States "expeditiously" - hopefully in time to be counted.

There are an estimated 266,000 active duty personnel permanently stationed overseas with about 117,000 voting-age dependents. Does this problem persist today?

Well, according to the Pentagon Inspector General, "Several problems identified in our reports after the 2000 and 2002 elections continued to exist in 2003 for all the services."

Doesn’t sound too promising on either account…maybe they’ll cancel each other out. One can only hope!
Posted by: RN   2004-08-24 1:05:19 PM  

#8  Where can I register for the vote in Florida?

(I live in Washington - never been to Florida, does visiting Atlanta count?).
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-08-24 12:22:36 PM  

#7  Like the man said: register early and register often.
Posted by: Xbalanke   2004-08-24 12:14:23 PM  

#6  C'mon, all together now,

EVERY VOTE MUST COUNT! (except overseas absentee votes form military)
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-24 10:47:50 AM  

#5  #4 No- he just takes up two seats on the plane...
Posted by: Capsu78   2004-08-24 10:08:59 AM  

#4  Isn't Moore also double-registered?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-08-24 9:48:45 AM  

#3  I thought they were too stupid to fill out the ballot correctly in one state,let alone two...
Posted by: Capsu78   2004-08-24 9:32:31 AM  

#2  Love that 68/12/16% spread; it helps Dems look so lawabiding.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-24 9:30:52 AM  

#1  My favorite response,

"I'm not here today," Hertz said and hung up.
Posted by: mhw   2004-08-24 9:00:34 AM  

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