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Home Front: Politix
Plot thickens after checking records
2004-08-30
In the midst of the controversy between the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and Kerry campaign representatives about Kerry's service in Vietnam, new questions have arisen. The Kerry campaign has repeatedly stated that the official naval records prove the truth of Kerry's assertions about his service.
They keep saying it, but won't release the full records.
But the official records on Kerry's Web site only add to the confusion. The DD214 form, an official Defense Department document summarizing Kerry's military career posted on johnkerry.com, includes a "Silver Star with combat V." But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star." Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a "combat V" for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star "combat V," either.
Oops!
If I remember correctly, the "V" went with the Bronze Star, which could be awarded either for valor or meritorious service in support of combat operations. A separate Meritorious Service Medal, ranking just behind the Bronze Star in precedence, was introduced in 1971 or 1972.
B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran himself, received the highest award the Army gives to a civilian, the Distinguished Civilian Service Award, for his book Stolen Valor. Burkett pored through thousands of military service records, uncovering phony claims of awards and fake claims of military service. "I've run across several claims for Silver Stars with combat V's, but they were all in fake records," he said. Burkett recently filed a complaint that led last month to the sentencing of Navy Capt. Roger D. Edwards to 115 days in the brig for falsification of his records.
Posted by:Steve

#9  That's because ADM Jerry Boorda thought he had dishonored the uniform, service, and country. Some people care about Duty, Honor, and Country. Kerry cares about money, prestige, and power. I found out today that there are three different versions of the Silver Star citation. Sad very sad.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-08-30 4:57:40 PM  

#8   If it were just one purple heart, ok I wouldn't care, but a Silver Stars and with V device?

Hmmm...survey says..."I've run across several claims for Silver Stars with combat V's, but they were all in fake records," he said.

Yeah, and my old man was the Sergeant Major of the Navy.
Posted by: 98zulu   2004-08-30 1:47:40 PM  

#7  Kerry is holding the shitty end of the stick in many cases.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-08-30 11:48:54 AM  

#6  In the final report on Adm Boorda, I believe they found that he not only rated the "V" device, but also two additional awards that he wasn't wearing.

As an aside, following the Boorda’s suicide, several senior officers began research on the decorations they were wearing, noting they indeed were in the same fix as Boorda. Often, a general notice (ALNAV/ALMAR) is issued listing criterion for the award and a unit clerk will insert the proper entry…sometimes in error. Shit happens!

In this case, Kerry is holding the shitty end of the stick.
Posted by: RN   2004-08-30 11:46:51 AM  

#5  The source also noted that Kerry never drilled and may have been removed in 1978 for failure to meet his committments

He was too busy drilling his fellow veterans.
Posted by: badanov   2004-08-30 11:13:26 AM  

#4  SH

Was Kerry AWOL? That's a serious charge to the MSM.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-08-30 10:59:41 AM  

#3  Kerry's comments on Boorda are disgusting, given the facts that have come out on JF'nK hissownself
Posted by: Frank G   2004-08-30 10:59:09 AM  

#2  Kerry, who should have been discharged from the Navy about the same time -- July 1, 1972 -- wasn't given the discharge he has on his campaign Web site until July 13, 1978. What delayed the discharge for six years?

I read or heard the answer to that one the other day. Kerry's request was to retire from active duty into the reserves. Yes, that means he was a Reserve Officer while he was dishonoring our country. The source also noted that Kerry never drilled and may have been removed in 1978 for failure to meet his committments. I think its possibe that he was in the IRR as I was and didn't need to drill, but I sure the truth will out.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-30 10:48:32 AM  

#1  ...And to think that poor Jerry Boorda killed himself over less..

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2004-08-30 10:42:48 AM  

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