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Why Do Muslim States Do So Badly in International Sports?
2004-09-01
From Arab News...
Why do Muslim nations do so badly in international sports?
Lack of sportsmanship?
The real answer lies in the marginal place that Muslim nations play in a world system in the creation of which they did not play a part and in which they do not quite feel at home. Within the Muslim group of nations those that are least "Islamic" did the best. The secular republics of Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan bagged 24 of the 42 medals won by the Muslim nations, including six of the 13 gold medals.
Obviously they need more shariah. Can't be a loser without shariah...
Six nations have labeled themselves "Islamic republic" in recent years. They are Mauritania, Sudan, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Only one, Iran, captured any medals — two gold, one silver and one bronze.
Iran and Pakland are also the only ones where the press carries much of anything about sports that I've seen...
In many Muslim countries the more traditional elements regard sports as an indulgence that could divert human attention from religious duties. In the 1970s when Iran hosted the Asian Olympics, several mullas, including the late Ayatollah Khomeini, denounced the exercise as "a Jewish-Crusader conspiracy" to take Muslims out of mosques and into sports stadiums. One of Khomeini's first acts, after he seized power in 1979, was to disband all the 600 or so sports clubs and associations that operated throughout Iran. Even football, the nation's favorite sport, was banned for three years.
It's hard to be devout when you're having fun, isn't it?
Some theologians are opposed to sports because it requires physical contact. And that, in a culture, which is uncomfortable with the human body as such, is always a source of alarm.
I'm still trying to figure where little Moose limbs come from...
Iranian mullas, for example, have tried for decades to ban free-style wrestling, a sports that has a history of 3000 years in the country, because of fears that it might encourage homosexual tendencies between adversaries whose almost naked bodies are bound to touch in the course of a match. The sport has managed to survive the advent of Khomeinism by forcing wrestlers to compete fully clothed.
"Don't worry, Aredeshir! We can get nekkid after the match!"
"I'll bring the melons!"
Some Muslim despots fear sports as an activity that could open spaces beyond the control of the regime. They are also uncomfortable with sports stars whose popularity could nibble at the prestige of the "supreme leader".
They could do what Kimmie does, and simply excel at everything...
With a good portion of their resources allocated to the military, most Muslim nations have little money left to spend on such "luxuries" as sport. Iran, for example, boasts only one Olympics size swimming pool, built in the 1970s by the Shah for the nation's once famous water-polo team. In Indonesia fewer than five percent of school-age children receive regular physical education. In most cases Muslim athletes must hold one or more jobs to pay for their own training. Eight of the 13 athletes who won gold medals either trained outside the Muslim world or benefited from private donations, rather than government support, at home. Turkey, the leader of the Muslim world in sports, devotes less than one percent of its national budget to sports, compared to 18 percent for defense.
On the other hand, the national basketball team has never fended off an invasion, has it? On the third hand, having borders with Muslim countries is probably where the fear of invasion comes from...
There is one other reason why the Muslim world does so badly in international sports: The virtually total absence of women. In Athens women athletes represented 39 percent of the total. In the case of the Muslim countries, however, women athletes accounted for no more than nine percent. Some Muslim countries brought no women athletes at all while others, including Iran, came with a single one, fully hijabed from head to toe.
Wouldn't want one of her titties to pop out, or the world to catch a fleeting glimpse of a buttock...
Most estimates show that women account for more than half of he population of all Muslim nations. And yet they are almost completely shut out of the world of sports.
... along with everything else.
In some countries physical education is forbidden for girls. In others, like Iran, fear that men might steal illicit glances of the female body prevents the building of sports facilities for women. By denying more than half of their population the opportunity to compete in any sport, Muslim nations reduce their overall chances of winning medals at events such as the Athens Games.
Not to mention reducing their wimminfolk to breeding stock...
In many Muslim countries women are shut out of numerous sporting fields, notably swimming,
Hard to swim in a gunny sack...
cycling,
One too many incidents of illicit seat-sniffing...
riding,
And saddle-sniffing...
wrestling,
Not even jello, mud, or Jolly Green Giant creamed corn...
football
"No, no! They jiggle too much!"
and, of course, gymnastics.
"Oh, by Allan! She's 12 years old, and she's limber and lithe! Oh, get me my gun! I must... I must... I must shoot off!"
Having done steadily worse in the past four Olympics, there is little hope that the Muslim nations would do any better in Beijing in four years time.
Posted by:tipper

#25  A6254: You need an excuse to ride your horse fast?
Posted by: Heysenbergmayhavebeenhere   2004-09-01 8:21:17 PM  

#24  BTW where is team Gin Tile?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-01 7:13:47 PM  

#23  The camels intimidate them earlyl.
Posted by: Half   2004-09-01 7:13:04 PM  

#22  Didn't Hakeem's numbers go in the tank every Ramadan? At least later in his career... perhaps it was a natural consequence of getting older, or maybe he just started being more observant.
Posted by: eLarson   2004-09-01 6:41:57 PM  

#21   I'm unaware of any ethnicly-based team sports like baseball or tennis that arose in what are predominately muslim countries.

This is why it's so easy to kick moslem ass, and now we got females doing it too.... this war is just the last great flame out of a religion that's destined for the dustbin.
Posted by: the playing fields of the west   2004-09-01 5:56:52 PM  

#20  .com, that'll be the Saudia Arabia who were annihilated 8-0 by Germany in the 2002 World Cup.

I shouldn't mention this ;), but we thrashed, thrashed I say Germany 5-1 a year earlier.

TGA - any mention of penalties will be taken as bad sportsmanship and not in the spirit of taking the piss out of the Saudis...
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2004-09-01 5:36:34 PM  

#19  As this has fermented I wonder if we shouldn't just turn this completely on its head as ask:

What are the "Muslim States" good at?

or, better yet:

Muslim States, WTF are they good for?

["Absolutely nothing! Say it again, yall..."]

That seems a much more apropos question to address, methinks.
Posted by: .com   2004-09-01 4:39:09 PM  

#18  maybe it's cuz they're too busy using their soccer stadiums for public executions? And when they're not, it's hard to play soccer without slipsliding on the blood?
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-09-01 3:18:13 PM  

#17  They're big on soccer. There is nothing quite like the sight of an entire stadium, and they some large ones like Sports City between Al Khobar and Al Dammam, filled with men (no wymyns, of course) all dressed in white thobes doing what we called the "Saudi wave". And you'd have to know the dance style of Arabia to even imagine it. When Bahrain defeated the Saudis in a game a couple of years back, the whole island was so proud they looked like they might explode. Big Magic, heh, for the Bahrainis!
Posted by: .com   2004-09-01 2:39:34 PM  

#16  I don't have any great knowledge of arab/muslim/whatever culture but my impression is that they're just not big on sports other than riding/racing/. I'm unaware of any ethnicly-based team sports like baseball or tennis that arose in what are predominately muslim countries. There's that Afghan sport like polo, but again that's just an excuse to ride your horse fast.
Posted by: Anonymous6254   2004-09-01 2:30:41 PM  

#15  In the 1970s when Iran hosted the Asian Olympics, several mullas, including the late Ayatollah Khomeini, denounced the exercise as “a Jewish-Crusader conspiracy” to take Muslims out of mosques and into sports stadiums.

Haaahahahahahaaahahaa, what an airhead.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-09-01 1:30:03 PM  

#14  PlanetDan,

I just could not agree more. The whole priority of islam is all about control and sacrificing liberty in order to achieve what amounts to only a cosmetic change in human society where it only appears that certain classes of crime and injustice have been reduced significantly.

The real end product of islam is that these classes of crimes which it targets are simply pushed underground so that 99% perpetrators are never caught and their victims never get any help. In the meantime, the islamic world above ground voluntarily sacrifices its liberties and stifles itself in every field of endeavor in vain. This is turn feeds the underworld new victims and new monsters in a neverending vicious cycle which cannot be questioned or exposed.

Posted by: peggy   2004-09-01 1:29:19 PM  

#13  the more traditional elements regard sports as an indulgence that could divert human attention from religious duties

“a Jewish-Crusader conspiracy” to take Muslims out of mosques and into sports stadiums

Iranian mullas, for example, have tried for decades to ban free-style wrestling, a sports that has a history of 3000 years in the country, because of fears that it might encourage homosexual tendencies

could open spaces beyond the control of the regime

total absence of women . . . men might steal illicit glances of the female body


how about: theirs is a misguided, bankrupt, throwback culture that prevents any sort of real accomplishment in any important realm: athletic, scientific, artistic, etc. Their first priority is to control. There is no second priority.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-09-01 1:08:05 PM  

#12  Why Do Muslim States Do So Badly in International Sports?

Okay. Because we suck.
Coming up next: "How Come Muslim States Do Even Worse In Wars?"
Posted by: tu3031   2004-09-01 1:00:20 PM  

#11  There is one other reason why the Muslim world does so badly in international sports: The virtually total absence of women.

No Amazonian Tennis Players! It is offensive to the Imam!


Serena Williams

I have appreciated her more since she nailed President Bubba about her taxes back in 1997

Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-01 12:01:08 PM  

#10  #4 Hakeem Olajuwon (the NBA player) said his dad, an Imam, really disliked his playing sports instead of studying. . . Until those 7-digit paychecks came rolling in. . .

Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-01 11:34:10 AM  

#9  Why Do Muslim States Do So Badly in International Sports?
Because it's hard to move freely with a suicide belt on.
Posted by: Bryan   2004-09-01 9:23:48 AM  

#8  Why Do Muslim States Do So Badly in International Sports?

Anyone else see the Arabian Gulf-state girls running in their go-fasta hijabs in the sprinting? I'm sure they could've finished a lot higher up if they hadn't been running in sheets. Insh'allah just ain't enough, ladies. I wonder why...
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-01 8:46:44 AM  

#7  Howard how serious is the ASBO?
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-01 4:32:10 AM  

#6  And who the f*ck gave them cricket?
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-01 4:28:46 AM  

#5   Pakistan has good cricket teams, what the heck is up with that? With little effort Iran and all the "stans" coulf have great boxers and wrestlers. I blame it on islam and poverty.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-09-01 2:48:35 AM  

#4  I used to play soccer with a British-born Pakistani Muslim who was really quite good (he was also a ball hog; different story).

I asked him why there weren't more Pakistanis playing top flight soccer in the UK and he said the parents really discourage it. 'Waste of time', 'not spiritual', etc. Seems the Imams feel the same way.

Hakeem Olajuwon (the NBA player) said his dad, an Imam, really disliked his playing sports instead of studying.

I think Islam needs a 'muscular Christianity' phase like the West had a century ago. More soccer, less bomb building.
Posted by: JDB   2004-09-01 2:36:07 AM  

#3  With a good portion of their resources allocated to the military, most Muslim nations have little money left to spend on such “luxuries” as sport. Iran, for example, boasts only one Olympics size swimming pool, built in the 1970s by the Shah for the nation’s once famous water-polo team.

What's with all the palace building then? Sadaam certainly could have sprung for a pool.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-01 1:48:49 AM  

#2  It's Inshallah, baby.
Posted by: ed   2004-09-01 1:34:11 AM  

#1  They had a DRs appointment, an old friend came from out of town, my dog ate it, I got diareah, I lost the keys to the car, my brother stole my wallet, the dentist had an open date, my uncle called, said his sister needed a ride! The rest of the world cheats!

Posted by: Lucky   2004-09-01 1:27:42 AM  

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