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| 'Islam is not responsible for Muslim failures' |
| 2004-09-04 |
| Former Malaysian prime minister Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad, in his keynote address at a conference in Karachi, said that the root cause of backwardness among the Muslim Ummah was deviation from the teachings of the Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). "Islam is not responsible for our failures and misfortunes, it is because we have deviated from its true teachings,'' he said. Therefore, he said, it was imperative for Muslims to acquire knowledge and hone their skills to build their capacity to defend the Ummah and Islam, serve suffering humanity and ensure the rule of justice to enable Muslims to effectively face global challenges. "This will also help develop our countries, defend our territory, people and dedicate our lives to the service of Islam and the Ummah," he said. "Muslims should practice tolerance by eschewing differences in order to become united and strong again." His address was delivered at the International Conference on "Muslim Ummah in the Modern World Challenges and Opportunities" organized by Shura Hamdard Pakistan. He felt the task was difficult and would obviously take time, but it would be enough if only a few Islamic countries tried to practice and implement the fundamental teachings of Islam. "There is only one challenge facing the Ummah - admitting truth that we have strayed from the teachings of our religion. It is our fault, not Islam's, and it is for us to correct," he said. Dr Mahathir Mohamad maintained that differences in interpretations could not be so severe that Muslims began to accuse each other of not being Muslims. "If we accept accusations against others for not being Muslims, then there will be no Muslim left in the entire world," he said. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #20 #16 Islam wants to annihilate everyone, including itself. And your point is? |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-09-05 1:09:59 AM |
| #19 âIslam is not responsible for our failures and misfortunes, it is because we have deviated from its true teachings,ââ he said. Ha...haha..ahahaaa...HAAAHHAAAHAAA....HAAAHAHAAA...... HAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-09-04 8:50:51 PM |
| #18 Let's see . . . Christians and Jews have been very successful in various lands, in various professions, at various times. As Robert Crawford points out, Muslims are universally violent, misogynist, bigoted, and impoverished regardless of location, vocation or era. Maybe they just need to convert!? |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2004-09-04 8:36:53 PM |
| #17 You left out the handy dandy rail gun for shooting muslims into the sun..errr, paradise. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2004-09-04 7:02:08 PM |
| #16 At least the Nazis only wanted to annihilate Jews, Slavs, communists, gypsies, homosexuals, artists, intellectuals, and the disabled. Islam wants to annihilate everyone, including itself. This is the main reason why I support the space program, because it offers the possibility of us eventually building a very large and secure psychiatric unit in space, complete with its own mosque, and perhaps even a population of android infidels for all the patients to smash up. |
| Posted by: Ploog 2004-09-04 5:35:39 PM |
| #15 What's Mahathir's rep? Mahathir is a "moderate" who nonetheless regularly mouthes anti-Semitism and Islamic superiority. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-09-04 3:08:24 PM |
| #14 #13 Is this a move to try to tie the "moderate Muslims" to the extremists in the name of Islamic unity? Uh ... aren't the moderates currently tied to the extremists by a common bond of complete and total silence regarding their " Such brave " [Of the over 350 dead] ... those who died from gunshot wounds, most were shot in the back as they fled the building, he said. EMPHASIS ADDED Oh, I get it, just another bit of anomalous conduct by the inadequately faithful. I'm not sure that I really want to see what comes of Muslims being even more faithful than the murderers at Beslan. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-09-04 3:05:56 PM |
| #13 Later thought: Is this a move to try to tie the "moderate Muslims" to the extremists in the name of Islamic unity? (What's Mahathir's rep?) Looks like they're choosing sides... scary. |
| Posted by: Old Grouch 2004-09-04 2:32:40 PM |
#12 Mitch and ex-lib, the way I'm parsing this is that the "tolerance" applies only to other Muslims (i.e., within "Islam and the Ummah"), not anybody else. C.F. the last paragraph:
Or in other words, Muslims shouldn't waste time and resources fighting each other over doctrinal differences when there are so many infidels, crusaders, and jews to kill. The next step will be to blame the infidels, crusaders, and jews for corrupting Islam. So you see, Islam can't be responsible. [Retch...] |
| Posted by: Old Grouch 2004-09-04 2:13:41 PM |
| #11 It's simply amazing. You can look at dozens of different Muslim societies, living in different climates with completely different histories. They have cultures that differ (a bit, at least), and contact with different cultures -- Europe, India, China, Africa, Russia. Yet they're almost universally violent, misogynist, bigoted, and impoverished. The rare exceptions are glaring, and often seem intent on shoving themselves into the same cesspool. Factor out the differences -- history, culture, climate -- and you're left with Islam. And the more "fundamental" the form, the worse the situation. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-09-04 1:42:44 PM |
| #10 They say that when you keep doing the same thing over an over, expecting the results to be different, it's a sign you're a nut... |
| Posted by: Fred 2004-09-04 1:03:51 PM |
| #9 The attendees of the Global Big Losers Convention fly in on |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-09-04 1:00:06 PM |
| #8 "Muslims should practice tolerance by eschewing differences in order to become united and strong again.â This has got to be a translation error. Tolerance through eschewing (ie, "avoiding and staying away from deliberately") differences? Tolerance through uniformity? That doesn't even make sense in Orwellian terms. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2004-09-04 12:59:11 PM |
| #7 So what did he say it was? The food? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2004-09-04 12:36:03 PM |
| #6 I wasn't aware of any problems with islam. Seems its full steam ahead. But other than destroying it outright, just work on the true meanings more and more. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-09-04 12:21:12 PM |
| #5 " . . . our failures and misfortunes" Yeah, that's what killing innocents in Russia and elsewhere is . . . a Moslem "failure" and "misfortune"! " . . . he said it was imperative for Muslims to acquire knowledge and hone their skills to build their capacity to defend the Ummah and Islam (their #1 goal), serve suffering humanity (that'll be the day) and ensure the rule of justice (they don't even know what that is) to enable Muslims to effectively face global challenges . . . " "Global challenges, huh?" Like what? I'm not sure I want to know. "If we accept accusations against others for not being Muslims, then there will be no Muslim left in the entire world,â he said. " Does that mean it's tough to find those shining-star examples? Is Islam that low on "good guys"? "He said Muslims of great Islamic civilization built cannons, siege machines, catapults, warships and superior steel blades to defend themselves and instill fear in the enemy." They always go back to the violence thingy. Makes their mama's proud. "Muslims should also compel and urge the West to improve its concept and image of Islam and its followers.â In your dreams. I think Islam should "compel" their own followers to improve themselves into example of prosocial, contributing members of society. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2004-09-04 12:17:11 PM |
| #4 Well the russian school massacre has convinced me about what is Islam is. |
| Posted by: capt joe 2004-09-04 12:15:29 PM |
| #3 Somebody should give Mahatir the Coton Mather "You don't Believe Enough" award. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-09-04 11:48:47 AM |
| #2 Musharraf: "Muslims should also compel and urge the West to improve its concept and image of Islam and its followers". Based on what? Does he think we are suicidal? We are already improving our concepts and true image of Islam. I guess, in the opposite direction than what he has on mind. |
| Posted by: Zarathustra 2004-09-04 11:45:03 AM |
| #1 That headline gave me a good laugh. Muslims need look no further than the Taliban to see Islam and sharia applied to the letter. |
| Posted by: TS(vice girl) 2004-09-04 11:44:40 AM |