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Moslem "Intellectuals" Say There's No Evidence Moslems Did 9/11 Attacks
2004-09-09
From MEMRI
I say there's no evidence there's any such thing as a Muslim "intellectual." In evidence, I cite the following...
.... During this past year leading up to the third anniversary of the attacks, there has been a consistent stream of articles and TV programs in the region's government-controlled media continuing to focus on conspiracy theories surrounding the attacks. The commemoration within the region's media includes statements made by leading professors, religious leaders, government officials, and even Muslim-Americans. These conspiracy theories primarily state that Arabs and Muslims were not involved and that the U.S. government and/or Jews/Israel are the true culprits. While it should be no surprise that Iran, a country with no official ties with the U.S., is supporting many lies regarding September 11, the U.S.'s closet Arab allies, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are also supportive of these lies.

In Egypt, Former Dean of Humanities at 'Ein Shams University, Mustafa Shak'a, was interviewed by Iqra TV on June 16, 2004. Shak'a attributed the September 11 attacks to the U.S. and the Jews: "To this day, we don't know who attacked the U.S. on September 11. Why is the attack attributed to bin Laden although it has not been proven that he was involved in the operation? It is way above his capabilities. Those who created him have made him a legend. The operation was 100% American, and this is not the place to elaborate, but what proves the operation was a Jewish one is that five Jews climbed up a high building and filmed the first attack of the first plane
"

Another Egyptian professor, Galal Amin of the American University, wrote an article for Al-Ahram in April 2004: "The claim that the Greater Middle East Initiative aims, wholly or partly, to eliminate terror of the type seen on September 11, 2001 is unconvincing, for several reasons. One is that there is still doubt that the September attacks were the outcome of Arab and Islamic terror. No conclusive proof to this effect is yet available. Many writers, American and European, as well as Arab, suspect that the attacks were carried out by Americans, or with American assistance, or that Americans knew about them and kept silent. Such doubts are strong and rest on damning evidence, but the U.S. administration forcefully censors them and bans any discussion of the matter — something that, by the way, makes one suspect the U.S. administration's commitment to 'knowledge.' But enough of that."
Many other examples follow.
Posted by:Mike Sylwester

#57  Say TGA, do you really keep a "bear" in the fridge?
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 1:11:27 AM  

#56  OK Zionists, since you keep censoring the truth post some evidence from independent sources.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 1:06:11 AM  

#55  OK, I made my point about the censorship on this board and added one more piece of evidence of who is spilling American blood by obstructing the truth.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:57:27 AM  

#54  'Neoconservatives' are spilling American blood, see censored URL below by deleting inserted "*".

www.AD*LUSA.com#zinni_mole_bush

Steve, earlier deletions add two more counts of treason against you.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:43:22 AM  

#53  'Neoconservatives' are spilling American blood, see censored URL below by deleting inserted "*".

www.AD*LUSA.com#zinni_mole_bush

Steve, the earlier deletion is another piece of evidence of treason against you.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:39:15 AM  

#52  'Neoconservatives' are spilling American blood, see censored URL below by deleting inserted "*".

www.AD*LUSA.com#zinni_mole_bush
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:26:05 AM  

#51  'Neoconservatives' are spilling American blood.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:22:14 AM  

#50  'Neoconservatives' are spilling American blood.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-09 12:22:14 AM  

#49  I know the secret, I know why these people are such flagrant morons. See, all these other countries still use lead base paint. The morons like to eat paint chips and lick the walls, so they're suffering from lead poisoning. Or it might be Zionist Microwave Death Rays from the communication satellites.

Oops, forgot to put on my aluminum foil hat.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2004-09-09 10:07:54 PM  

#48  Nothing like reading Egyptian intellectual/professor comments for lunch. My experience there taught me that half of them are false Ph.d's; they typically photocopy the hell out of books and articles, then basically summarize the thread of the books and articles. A real thesis? No. Then the review committee is peopled with cronies/friends/etc. The other half do legit research and try to be a bit original. But when it comes to the topic of Sept. 11/Israel/Jews/Muslim behavior/Islomofascism behavior/US or any other ancilliary topic, then the enemy of my enemy is my friend comes to the fore. With the type of vehemence that only they can display. Logic goes out the window. But they'll drown you with hospitality while discussing these topics. Truly bi-polar.
Posted by: chicago mike   2004-09-09 1:46:03 PM  

#47  Boris oughta mosey on over to LGF. I'm sure he'd get the same special treatment he receives here, only about ten-fold in intensity.
Posted by: Osama bin Laid-in   2004-09-09 12:31:10 PM  

#46  boris ima find somebody who in can be you buddy. him name is mr.nobody from mrr janeane garafolo blog. (you are visit there once). you and him are can talk bout how jews are carry out 911 and bout em 16 foot hole in pentagon. i think you 2 in get along fine.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-09-09 12:24:09 PM  

#45  Oops, #13 my mistake.
Posted by: Dakotah   2004-09-09 12:21:38 PM  

#44  "He just can't understand that he can't walk into any house he wants, sit down, take a bear from the fridge "

Take a bear from the fridge? TGA (#6), you Germans are even tougher than I thought.
Posted by: Dakotah   2004-09-09 12:19:51 PM  

#43  Hi, UFOOL. It's the Mossad again and, yes, we're still under your bed. Does your mother know you read this Superserb gay porn shit?
Sleep tight.
Posted by: The Mossad   2004-09-09 12:18:05 PM  

#42  Mucki reminded us that Boris is of the belief that he is constantly followed by Mossad aircraft.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-09 12:05:32 PM  

#41  Yes, and let's not forget all of the families' of passengers getting cell phone calls (heck, even the Sprint operators were interviewed telling their story of connecting calls to families). Those Jooooos, man, now they're smart. Had all the passengers' names, cell phone #s (which, I assumed they cloned from Jerusalem), and families' home #s. And, to top it all off...the Joos called these families, impersonated their loved ones and did it w/o the families even guessing it was a hoax call. Now THAT'S a conspiracy!
Posted by: BA   2004-09-09 11:14:26 AM  

#40  I don't think anyone answered B-A-R's question (#1), but IIRC the 9/11 commission report included transcripts of the cockpit recorders from the plane that went down in PA. There apparently were shouts of allan is great.
Posted by: Spot   2004-09-09 10:55:02 AM  

#39  Sorry Boris--deleted posts don't get get you credit from Iranian intelligence. But thanks for reminding us that there is no difference between your gullible, childlike views and theirs. Don't get too comfortable cashing their checks, since they'll all be dead soon.
Posted by: BMN   2004-09-09 10:19:53 AM  

#38  When I was a kid, I though oxymoron was someone that was deprived of oxygen during the birthing process and became mentally retarded.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-09-09 10:01:41 AM  

#37  Interesting article about the muslim intellectuals.

Anyone tried the jumbo shrimp?
Posted by: BH   2004-09-09 10:00:54 AM  

#36   Anonymous6370,

Yes, to western minds, it is odd how the Islamic world can believe that
- the US deserved to be hit on 9-11
- it was the will of Allah
- this is why we praise bin Laden
- It was the fault of the Jews
- It was the CIA
all at the same time.

It's like multiple personality disorder at a cultural level.
Posted by: mhw   2004-09-09 9:47:35 AM  

#35  the Mossad, of course. The serb bitch was sure active last nite, huh? Not a full moon, so...
Posted by: Frank G   2004-09-09 9:33:06 AM  

#34  and this Sept 11 anniversary diatribe against the West, coming on the heels of Beslan, is particularly odious.

I'm waiting to read their spin on Beslan. Which Jews were responsible for that one?
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-09-09 9:16:29 AM  

#33  Geez, where was the "hot coffee thru the nose" warning?

Muslim "Intellectuals" and "In Egypt, Former Dean of Humanities" are the two best oxymorons ever to appear in the same article.

Fred, how do you keep finding these hilarious articles? Is there, like a Muslim humor section at Barnes and Noble, or something, we should know about?
Posted by: Jack is Back   2004-09-09 8:48:04 AM  

#32  such intellectual dishonesty:

[Jews are inferior to muslims, yet]
. . . attributed to bin Laden although it has not been proven that he was involved in the operation? It is way above his capabilities

. . . the September attacks were the outcome of Arab and Islamic terror. No conclusive proof to this effect is yet available. [and with that same proof, it is clear that Jews did it]

[and with only an internet rumour as evidence,]
. . . 4,000 Jews of American origin who worked at the World Trade Center received instructions from the Mossad not to go to work that day

(this is some organization those Jews have!!!!)

what a morally and intellectually bankrupt culture is the Religion of Hate Blame Denial Sheep Peace™.


Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-09-09 8:43:52 AM  

#31  Bryan,

The Kamikaze were soldiers fighting against soldiers (yes, yes, pilots vs. Navy ships, but the point still holds).

The suicide bombers are terrorists against civilians, the younger and more innocent, the better. There were suicide bombers amongst the hostage takers in the Breslan school.
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-09-09 8:34:03 AM  

#30  Intellectual = learned, well-read, possible genius

Genius is but a point away from idiocy.
Posted by: RN   2004-09-09 8:27:54 AM  

#29  The LTTE were using suicide bombers regularly and effectively for years before the Allahf*ckers got onto it. So they hardly even 'perfected' that concept. Using hijacked airliners as missles was new in practice, but not something that hadn't been previously envisaged by others elsewhere. Like Beslan: a simple idea if you're inclined towards murdering other people, but that seems astonishing to the rest of us.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-09 8:08:54 AM  

#28  "The only original Islamic concept in the last 700 years is the suicide bomber."

I'm not so sure about this. What about Japanese Kamikaze pilots?

I suppose it could be said that they didn't invent suicide bombing, they just 'perfected' it.
Posted by: Bryan   2004-09-09 7:54:20 AM  

#27  Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy Message Board* has been waging a private war against the Moon Hoax idiots (among other conspiracist charlatans) ever since 2001, when Fox Entertainment broadcast its moronic quackfest, Conspiracy Theory: Did We go to the Moon?**

There is an interesting discussion going on there right now about conspiracism as a religion. The BA does not allow political discussion but I made the connection between conspiracism and religious fascism as an actual cause of the present war in this entry (as "Ad Hominid")

* "HBs"= "(Moon) hoax believers," a sub-species of media vermin.

**LMHS for short ("loathesome Moon hoax show")
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-09-09 7:09:22 AM  

#26  The link displays the Wahhabi and radical Shi'ite Muslim dream.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-09-09 6:54:39 AM  

#25  These Muslim have taken too much of something or are just moronic fools thinking someone out there will buy this rubbish besides the jihadic faithful.

After the Russian school slaughter the Islamofascist enemy must be treated like SS death camp guards, and all of us know what happened to them.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-09-09 6:52:29 AM  

#24  Islamic intellectuals is an oxymoron. Intellectual activity for these folks ended about 1492 when they were expelled from Spain and all hope of restarting it ended at the gates of Vienna. The only original Islamic concept in the last 700 years is the suicide bomber.
Posted by: RWV   2004-09-09 4:36:57 AM  

#23  LHR, thank you. With friends like you and so many here, 'tis our enemies should be fearful. I was fortunate not to meet Boris and his friends when I lived over there -- about which I am not complaining!

Atomic Conspiracy, I always learn something new when you post. As it is said, common sense isn't common, and logical thinking is too hard for too many.

Boris, the stupid man discovers antisemitism and thinks it is philosophy; then he struts about proclaiming his status as an intellectual, to the annoyance of his mental superiors.
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-09-09 3:27:37 AM  

#22  Islam has devolved into a fraud. Crush and dismantle as soon as possible.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2004-09-09 2:15:34 AM  

#21  So, like, on 9-11, Muslims danced in the street to celebrate the success of the Jews?

No internal contradictions here, folks, move along.
Posted by: Anonymous6370   2004-09-09 2:02:56 AM  

#20  Almost all paranoid conspiracy theorists (PCTs) favor the Islamofascist enemy in the current world war, not just those who directly address the events of September 11.

The entire enemy case, as believed by left-wing activists, semi-literate Islamic populations, and other media conformists throughout the world, is based on notions that are not substantially different from the Roswell UFO case, the fake Moon landing claim, or the "chemtrail" hysteria.

In fact, the historical progenitors of PCTs, such as the forgers who created the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, were almost all antisemitic and anti-Zionist conspiracy claimants. It is not going too far to claim that antisemites in fact invented PCTs.

These claims have much in common with Islam itself, the reliance on the personal authority of the claimant, the appeal to general belief, and the distortion of burden of proof and the reliance on emotion.
Before I got so involved with the WoT, I was, like Daniel Pipes, primarily a debunker and skeptic of extraordinary claims, such as Holocaust denial, gigantic cover-ups, supernatural powers and the like.

It is not coincidence that Daniel and I have both taken such a strong stand on the WoT. To me, the war with the Islamofascists is part of a larger struggle between reason and unreason, the forces of the Enlightenment on one side and those of dark age barbarism on the other. The establishment media, ironically a product of science and therefore of reason, are solidly on the side of unreason. This is for no better reason that that the routine application of logic and critical thinking would render their primary source of income, commercial advertising, ineffective.

For 2000 years, apocalyptic rabble-rousers and self-appointed prophets have predicted a final, decisive showdown between good and evil, a Battle of Armageddon. For once they were right, we are in the midst of it right now.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-09-09 2:02:19 AM  

#19  reading the sink trap...I get the feeling this is some wanna be Nazi I new in Switzerland. His name was Boris and he loved Nazi stuff.
After everything Europe has done and after hundreds of years of killing them.
The Joooooo's are stronger than ever!!

God's chosen people are so much better than the Euro trash that try's everyday to undermind them.
The Joooooo will always have me on their side and my wrath pointed at their enemy.

I wonder who the joooooo's would prefer to Nuke first.
France and the French part of Switzerland or the Palo's? Personally I would like to see the Gaul's go!!
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-09 1:38:32 AM  

#18  I looked it up in the dictionary.

oxymoron: (n) 1. muslim intellectual.
Posted by: anymouse   2004-09-09 1:20:47 AM  

#17  This is truly shocking news. So all these dancing celebrating Arabs in the streets of Gaza, Cairo and Teheran were applauding the "heroic deeds" of American Jews?

WE WUZ CHEATED!
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-09 1:19:01 AM  

#16  Hey UFO I got a I got these anti "mind control satellite" jammers you can buy. They're real cheap too. Want some?
Posted by: Valentine   2004-09-09 1:14:16 AM  

#15  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 1:11:27 AM  

#14  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 1:06:11 AM  

#13  He just can't understand that he can't walk into any house he wants, sit down, take a bear from the fridge and go about insulting the owners of this house.
When those owners ask him to leave he yells censorship.
Try not to obstruct your remaining three brain cells from functioning, Ufotroll
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-09 1:02:26 AM  

#12  so go away, troll.
Posted by: B   2004-09-09 12:58:49 AM  

#11  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 12:57:27 AM  

#10  He can't stay away. It's the 3-digit IQs. He doesn't see those at the home.
Posted by: Fred   2004-09-09 12:54:49 AM  

#9  Swift....Swifter... Seafarious :-)
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-09 12:48:24 AM  

#8  Boris, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. Now go away.
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-09-09 12:46:23 AM  

#7  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 12:43:22 AM  

#6  When will you fool realize that this is NOT YOUR site? Spew your "truth" elsewhere (you have enough websites obviously).

You have NO RIGHTS here except those that the owner of this website in his infinite patience with you grants you.

And damn, get a dictionary and look up "treason", idiot.
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-09 12:43:00 AM  

#5  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 12:39:15 AM  

#4  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL   2004-09-09 12:26:05 AM  

#3  ...hawk intellectuals say there's no evidence that hawks ate that family of bluebirds...

"...and besides, they had it coming!"
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-09-09 12:25:21 AM  

#2  Meanwhile, sharp-shinned hawk intellectuals say there's no evidence that sharp-shinned hawks ate that family of eastern bluebirds.
Posted by: Korora   2004-09-09 12:21:11 AM  

#1  Out of curiosity, were the cockpit voice recorders working on any of the planes when they slammed into the buildings and the ground?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-09-09 12:13:43 AM  

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