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| 2004-09-12 | |
| Terrorism has been around for centuries. The sword has been upgraded to the bomb, the actors have changed, the targets have changed and the number of victims has escalated, but terrorism is as part of the political landscape now as it has been always. Stay vigilant and get used to it, say the experts. Vigilant OK, but USED to it?? "There has been politically motivated terrorism since the year dot," says terrorism expert Professor Clive Williams from the Australian National University. "It's just it wasn't always called terrorism in those days." In the name of religion, the Crusaders slaughtered women and children, and Guy Fawkes has a day of celebration named after him, even though his plot to blow up the British Parliament failed. Israel was born out of two terrorist groups, Irgun and the Stern Gang; the Palestine Liberation Organisation was born out of displaced Arabs and the desire for an independent state, their message passed on by the hijacking of international airliners. Clever twist of the truth. Untwist it and it reads like this: "The PLO was born out of terror. Israel was born out of displaced Jews and the desire for an independent state." Campaigns of terror have worked. One of of the most successful was waged by Jews against the British in Palestine, culminating with the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, - "that's an example of a considerable success". The Jewish group Irgun, which fought British rule, in 1946 blew up the hotel which was a British military post. Ninety-one people were killed, including women, children and Jews. The British left Palestine and in 1948 Israel was an independent state. I believe one or two women died and I'm not aware of any deaths of children. The British were WARNED beforehand that the hotel was going to be blown up, but chose not to evacuate. I never knew the birth of the State of Israel was such a ridiculously simple affair: bomb a hotel, the British leave, establish the state. Irgun leader Menachem Begin stressed his desire to avoid civilian casualties and said three telephone calls were placed, one to the hotel, another to the French Consulate, and a third to the Palestine Post, warning that explosives in the King David Hotel would soon be detonated. On July 22, 1946, the calls were made. The call into the hotel was apparently received and ignored. Begin quotes one British official who supposedly refused to evacuate the building, saying: "We don't take orders from the Jews." [From msn search - Irgun] Other terrorist groups have not been so successful, such as the ideologically driven Bader-Meinhof group. "Those sorts of people have been less successful because they've got older and they've got mortgages and, you know, have settled down." Huh? The guy's a PROFESSOR? Professor of WHAT??
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| Posted by:Bryan |
#4 Other terrorist groups have not been so successful, such as the ideologically driven Bader-Meinhof group. "Those sorts of people have been less successful because they’ve got older and they’ve got mortgages and, you know, have settled down."The Baader-Meinhofs were successful enough when they were busy robbing banks, blowing up stuff and murdering people (including one of our officers in their V Corp Headquarters bombing in Frankfurt am Main), and hiding out in Communist East Germany when the heat was on. Neither Andrea Baader nor Ulriche Meinhof "got older, got a mortgage and settled down." They were arrested when the gang was broken up after they were stupid enough to murder a German policeman (that got the German cops' panties in a wad, and the gang was broken up soon thereafter). And IIRC, they committed suicide in prison to "further the cause." (I know Baader did; I think Meinhof did too, but wouldn't swear to it. I was back in the States by then, and such news was sketchy at best.) I felt that blast, Professor Idiot - try selling this crap to someone who has no direct experience with these idiots. Pardon my language, ladies and gents, but this clown is a FUCKING WANKER. He'd have to raise his IQ 100 points to get up to MORON. You "get used to it," asshole. I refused to then, and I'm not going to start now. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-09-12 4:53:31 PM |
| #3 Yes. And therefore the attack on it is only regarded as terrorism by those intent on equating Jewish actions at the time with Arab terror. |
| Posted by: Bryan 2004-09-12 2:42:05 PM |
| #2 While King David Hotel had civilians it was a political-military place the British HQ was there. |
| Posted by: Anonymous6361 2004-09-12 2:19:43 PM |
| #1 I'm not sure why the link to the original article didn't work. Here it is: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?thesection=news&thesubsection=&storyID=3590641&reportID=62066 |
| Posted by: Bryan 2004-09-12 2:06:21 PM |