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Most Britons want Iraq pullout deadline: poll
2004-09-21
Most Britons want Prime Minister Tony Blair to set a date for the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq, according to a poll for the Guardian newspaper on Tuesday. Seven out of 10 of those polled by ICM said Blair should set a deadline for a pullout of the 8,500 British soldiers in Iraq. By contrast, an ICM-Guardian poll in May found 45 percent of voters believed British troops should remain in Iraq "for as long as necessary". Blair, who is U.S. President George W. Bush's strongest nitwit ally in the Iraq war, said on Sunday that British and U.S. forces would only leave once Iraq is stable.

More than 300 Iraqis have been killed in a surge of violence in the last 10 days. The unrest has cast doubt on whether elections planned for January can go ahead, and a series of kidnappings of foreigners has put pressure on the countries operating in Iraq. American hostage Eugene Armstrong was beheaded and a video of his killing was posted on the internet on Monday. A militant groups led by Al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has also threatened to kill Armstrong's fellow hostages—American Jack Hensley and Briton Kenneth Bigley. Their captors have called on the U.S. authorities to free women prisoners in Iraqi jails. Bigley's son Craig appealed to the British premier on Monday to meet the kidnappers' demands. "I ask Tony Blair personally to consider the amount of bloodshed already suffered," he told BBC News 24 television. "Please meet the demands and release my father." Blair told a news conference on Monday that Britain's response "has got to be to stand firm". ICM interviewed 1,005 adults aged 18 and over between Sept. 17 and 19 for the Guardian poll.
Posted by:Murat

#17  Or in other words Bryan, and yes Zogby agrees,
Most turks eat shit.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-09-21 5:58:16 PM  

#16  In Africa there's a strange little creature, the 'dung beetle'. This little fellow is attracted to droppings that drop from the rear ends of bigger things like elephants and buffalo. He homes in on one and forms a little piece of his prize into a ball. Then he scurries triumphantly away with it, pushing it over little mounds of earth and around obstacles like tufts of grass.

What he does with it afterwards I wont go into here. Suffice it to say that the Guardian's journalism reminds me of the dung beetle.
Posted by: Bryan   2004-09-21 9:15:32 AM  

#15  When I was a member of Amnesty International, this is one of the things the left likes to do: parse an issue until they find an opening then just pound away at the parsed issue like it owes you money.

When a question is posed: Do you prefer to turn back communism in Central America, the overwhelming answer would be yes and the left knows it, and they would never ask that question in a poll and publish the result.

But when the question is posed, if a communist government in Central America has a good human rights record would you be opposed to it: the respond would be less against a communist government.

So, another question is posed: would you be in favor of a communist government in Central America if a western hemisphere government recognized and supported it. The response would be even more favorable for the communist government.

And so it would go until the left found an answer that could totaly change the political dynamics, and therefore the debate; and undermine the basic premise: all communist governments are despotic.

Now replace the term communist with Muslim and you have some idea of the kind of fight we are in with the left.
Posted by: badanov   2004-09-21 8:43:50 AM  

#14  It's all in the psychology folks. If you offer people the certainty of a specific date rather than an indefinitely long war, they will say they want it. Like asking if you prefer peace or war.
Posted by: V is for Victory   2004-09-21 8:21:02 AM  

#13  What's that Ralph Peters said of Putin, that he looked into Russia's soul and found it weak and willing to be subjugated?

Sounds like the unfortunately wide majority of Brits. :|
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-09-21 8:11:51 AM  

#12  ICM interviewed 1,005 adults aged 18 and over between Sept. 17 and 19 for the Guardian poll.

enough said apart from most of Guardian readership aint worth knowing , associating with , or even having reasoned debates with .

We stay in Iraq till the jobs done . Dont care if PM has to resign . We have a task to do to make the world a better place for our children to inherit . One of the jobs is to eliminate all that would harm the children in future

STAY IN IRAQ gets my vote every time

On a side note , pull your ill informed weak statistical links from somewhere that gives a wide unbiased account , and not 1005 people from a crap newspaper Murat u silly little retard .
Posted by: MacNails   2004-09-21 7:29:45 AM  

#11  I am glad you have put yourself forward to check out whats really going on with your muslim brothers in Iraq Murat. Keep in touch with us and let us know how it works out in Iraq OK. We will be pulling for your survival.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-09-21 6:52:38 AM  

#10  Terminated yeah, good description Bulldog.
But no kidding, I would have liked it to see Saddam being candidate, as I am really curious if he could get any votes at all.
Posted by: Murat   2004-09-21 6:44:44 AM  

#9  Let's leave Murat's primitive and barbaric personality out of it...
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-21 6:44:19 AM  

#8  besides, I'm guessing these EeeUwww guys are looking at the results from the German elections and realizing that bashing America may be fun, but it doesn't get the votes.
Posted by: 2B   2004-09-21 6:43:55 AM  

#7  typical Murat - he's voting for a murderous despot who raped children in front of their parents and sent their body parts home in plastic bags. Says lots about you, Murat. But those of us here on Rantburg were already aware of your hollow soul.
Posted by: 2B   2004-09-21 6:41:20 AM  

#6  I think his campaign may be prematurely 'terminated'.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-21 6:39:28 AM  

#5  Wooaahh This news is good :)

Saddam declared he wants to be candidate in the Iraqi elections, his Italian lawyer Stefano told they expected Saddam could get 42% of the votes. (actually that is a bit down from the last election results 99.9% but still good I guess)
Posted by: Murat   2004-09-21 6:33:11 AM  

#4  It's all a bunch of noise cause by Labors "convention" I suspect.

Here is a grand Laborite idea. They know everyone in the U.K. is lining up behind paying a consumption or energy tax to fund the UN. I know the peole of the U.K. are just going to be so excited to do so, I read it on the Beeb website in my dreams.

Mister Mudasl Bush is not trailing. He is stomping John Kerry arse. The only place it looks like Bush is realy trailing is in the MSM and at communist party DNC headquarters. Over at Kerry campaign headquarters they are wetting themselves and crying in their weak US piss like beer.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-09-21 5:02:49 AM  

#3  Al-Grauniad has as much credibility as Jihad Unspun in this regard. A joke!
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-21 4:25:02 AM  

#2  Typical worthless Guardian agenda-pushing poll, Murat. When's the deadline the respondents had in mind? Six months? A year? Two years? Five years? Fifteen years? Anyone with any of those timescales in mind might have answered 'yes' to the question 'should a deadline for withdrawl of British forces be set'. Tool.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-21 4:17:33 AM  

#1  I am not spamming people. It is just that more people must be on this as Bush is trailing American offers his vote to Malaysiakini readers which means all the Bush haters in Malaysia will vote for Kerry, right now Kerry is leading. Could you guys at LGF please upset the polls in this lefttist news online. Eric Ossemig, an ex-soldier with the US Army, feels so strongly about this that he is letting readers of malaysiakini determine who he should be voting for in the Nov 2 American presidential election. Vote here top left hand corner for Bush, so that Bush get this guy's vote. Polling period: Sept 20 - Oct 15
Posted by: Eric Mudasi   2004-09-21 4:07:19 AM  

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