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Home Front: Politix
Swiftees Launch Torpedo Five at U.S.S. Minnow - Kerry
2004-09-22
Announcer: Even before Jane Fonda went to Hanoi to meet with the enemy and mock America, John Kerry secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris.

Announcer: Though we were still at war and Americans were being held in North Vietnamese prison camps.

Announcer: Then he returned and accused American troops of committing war crimes on a daily basis.

Announcer: Eventually Jane Fonda apologized for her activities, but John Kerry refuses to.

Announcer: In a time of war, can America trust a man who betrayed his country?

Announcer: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is responsible for the content of this advertisement.
Posted by:Capt America

#39  I've already swor to uphold and defend the Constitution - and done so in 2 different official conflicts and a few unofficial ones. Volunteered again in 2001. Gov't said I'm too broken down - but still working for them in a desk capacity, as well as a few trips to the Stan as a "contractor" to do a little teaching, tuning and installation.

I think our current sytem works just fine as long as we can break through the MSM and let people know the truth.

Remember the order:

Soap Box
Ballet Box
Jury Box
Ammo Box

No need to jump the gun.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-09-22 4:07:36 AM  

#38  " sand niggers "

"what will it take for you to hang out at your local mosque and start picking these assholes off one by one as they step out"

LHR, racist, xenophobic and threatening murder is no way to be.

You really need to back it off a notch - you sound just like a characture of the "Nazi Righty" that the left loves to make.

Calm down, gather yourself, stay rational. And value liberty and fairness - which you appear not to. Your extreme emotionalism and hate will choke you up every bit as much as the hatred espoused by the left chokes them up. Don't become what they are.

If you fill your heart with hate, make racist slurs, and espouse indisrciminate violence and atrocities, then you are no friend of liberty.

to put it in blunt terms:

Stop and back it the hell up Hoss - your words go too far and smear the side you appear to be taking. If you cannot get over this racist violent streak, then you are an enemy to me, as surely as the left is. With "friends" like you, we don't need enemies. You're a McVeigh in the making if you cannot get yourself under control.

And like the old soldier I am, I've seen blood shed and done it myself - its not to be taken lightly. You have not - its the armchair generals who seem to hav ethe biggest thirst for blood. Remember - my oath is to the Constituion of the UNited states, and includes all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Don't put yourself in that last group.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-09-22 2:19:58 AM  

#37  LHR, you need to step back, take a deep breath or two and drink a beer.

You're wound a bit too tight, and resort to genocide too soon. Anger is OK - but even I dont go this far except in rare circumstances, such as Beslan. And even then, I backed off once I became rational against my anger.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-09-22 12:42:28 AM  

#36  Long Hair Republican hasn't quite qualified for the sink trap. But I'm generally someone with substantial tolerance for dissenting voices.

I completely agree with OldSpook, and I hope LHR will pay attention, take a step back, and consider soberly what OS has said. Few people here are "doped up on political correctness". What most regulars have in common here is a clear, serious understanding of what needs to be done to protect our country and extend some of the decency and good life we know to others.

None of that would ever be served by shooting people coming out of a mosque. Such an act would be described by a single word -- murder.

LHR, dude, you have some issues. Read OldSpook's words again, and reflect on them.
Posted by: Steve White   2004-09-22 11:21:05 PM  

#35  I dunno, Ed (and I'm an "Ed" myself), I figure we can find our own strengths and merits in disagreement, or we can delete and find strength in pugilism. Which has its own merits in certain situations, but is siginificantly lacking when it comes to talking and discussing.
Posted by: Asedwich   2004-09-22 10:10:17 PM  

#34  Calling Fred, let's get some deletions ... I already know a message board where a leftie named Angsty Shem infiltrated the conservatives' guild to rip posts from the ranting thread to distort in his post ...
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-09-22 2:38:46 PM  

#33  On this board we know each other by our handles and our words. We do our best to discern whether those words add up to an authentic voice--even (especially) for the Rantburg trolls. I don't buy LHR's rant. I don't think that's what righteous anger sounds like.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal   2004-09-22 1:12:50 PM  

#32  I'm an armchair lieutenant who does NOT thirst for blood. It's nothing I like, just something we all (I hope) know will happen in war. If I ever say something you see as excessively bloodthirsty, please remember this.

I am an armchair colonel. What is your date of rank? ;o)
Posted by: badanov   2004-09-22 1:10:26 PM  

#31  guess that should be "sites such as 'this'", not 'these'.
Posted by: docob   2004-09-22 12:58:15 PM  

#30  Well said, OS -- LHR's statements have been such a caricature of everything that the left would like to believe is said on sites such as these that I'm with BH -- I wouldn't be surprised to find that he's a lefty troll/mole.
Posted by: docob   2004-09-22 12:52:59 PM  

#29  [fwiw, that's the 6th ad, not the 5th.]
Posted by: growler   2004-09-22 12:45:51 PM  

#28  hmmmm bh. well he is have em long hair.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-09-22 12:36:02 PM  

#27  LHR: You have no idea how quickly I will turn on individuals to protect "the greater good", so STAND THE FUCK DOWN.

OldSpook: its the armchair generals who seem to hav ethe biggest thirst for blood.

Agreed, but as a clarification for anything I say later, I'm an armchair lieutenant who does NOT thirst for blood. It's nothing I like, just something we all (I hope) know will happen in war. If I ever say something you see as excessively bloodthirsty, please remember this.
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-09-22 11:39:05 AM  

#26  WTF?! I think LHR is mobying Rantburg. FOAD, lefty troll.
Posted by: BH   2004-09-22 10:28:59 AM  

#25   Instead of bashing the President on his faux-pas in the National Guard 35 years ago, the press is missing the real story here of one who would be our next CIC. The Main Stream News media have abbrogated their responsibilties to the public by not pursuing this story.
Imagine what 60 Minutes would do on this story if they didn't have a political agenda? Where are our true impartial investigative reporters?
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2004-09-22 10:26:38 AM  

#24  A second term for Dubya is sure to push the hard corps left over the falls and cause a split in the Democratic party from which they may never recover. I’m sure they are already putting into place their own version of “insurgency” aimed at damaging President Bush.

Would they do something really off the scale, I’d hope not!

But then again…

Thank God for the Second Amendment!
Posted by: RN   2004-09-22 10:10:46 AM  

#23  This ad should be fatal to Kerry's campaign.
1. He can't deny that he did it.
2. If he attacks the ad he publicizes it.
3. If he doesn't attack the ad, he admits it.
Sweet.
Posted by: Tom   2004-09-22 10:09:31 AM  

#22  SH - Just watched that video - very good. Its from the Vietnam Vets for Truth (www.kerrylied.com) and both calls Kerry a liar and honors the Vietnam Vets. They are seeking donations to run ads.

LongHair - I think you need to 'chill out' a bit and step away from the computer for awhile :). Take a vacation for a few days.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-09-22 9:43:06 AM  

#21  OldSpook,
As always, well said.

LHR,
Save the insanity for somewhere else. Keep Rantburg for reasoned discourse.
Posted by: Austin   2004-09-22 9:02:00 AM  

#20  Hello, OldSpook. If I might suggest a third route, indiscriminate violence aside, that some of us might contemplate to avert the hell that is Islamification from the heartland of America.
Know your enemies. Know the friends of your enemies. Understand, with a certainty, that if the force of Russia's military cannot stem the Islamist tide in their hinterlands, that our modern system of police and jurisprudence may not be able to prevent jihadist tyrrany in America.
With all due respect to their being "Americans," what they want isn't what I'd like to become. I fear that at some certain point our current system of politics and criminal justice might not suffice. The potentially premature excesses of LHR aside, I'll be ready. You?
Posted by: Asedwich   2004-09-22 3:11:33 AM  

#19  Until something like Beslan comes here, of course. I trust we won't be so civil when it comes to a "civil war," with them and theirs within our borders. I'll draw the line when my fellow Americans commit atrocities to endow the U.S of A. with the blessing of the Islamicate.
Posted by: Asedwich   2004-09-22 2:04:15 AM  

#18  I'm madderin hell about the islamonazis... but I can't countenance shooting fellow Americans because I'm pissed with some reprobates in Iraq.

Revenge is a dish best served cold. Mis-directing our anger and thrashing about isn't going to move us towards the ultimate solutions to the problem.

As the flight leader tells his wingmen in Star Wars as they fly down the Deathstar trench: "Stay on target!"
Posted by: Leigh   2004-09-22 1:59:13 AM  

#17  So my right winged friends...what will it take for you to hang out at your local mosque and start picking these assholes off one by one as they step out of their secret hide out? Just how far are my so intellectual bloggers willing to be pushed? How many more of your neighbors heads are you willing to be shown to you? How doped up on Political Correctness are you?
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-22 1:29:51 AM  

#16  Buck up, friend. All we have is each other. No nation is totally reliable, not even the Brits. We'll soldier on and win this one if it takes us 42 years... which is what the last long twilight struggle required. Won that one, will win this one. Carry on.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-22 1:22:21 AM  

#15  I feel like shit for my comments tonight....
But I also feel that I am to the point to where I need to go lower than my enemy. After 911 and 12 other attacks on our country from within and around the world. Being marked for death, for just being an American....
Ladies and Gentlemen, let us no longer think we can achieve utopia as one speices, they could carless.
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-22 1:18:35 AM  

#14  The American left is veering into isolationist territory (look at Barracks Osama's convention speech for a good example of things to come). Perhaps a good near-term electoral strategy, but disastrous for this nation if pursued in earnest.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-22 1:17:09 AM  

#13  Amen lex. The irony inherent in the left's position is that if they succeed in defeating Bush's neo-Wilsonian foreign policy (either via election or pressure from their surrogates in the media) they will almost certainly have sown the seeds of their own destruction. Any gains by the left on the foreign policy front will, by necessity, be only temporary in nature.
Posted by: AzCat   2004-09-22 1:14:27 AM  

#12  Don't go there, LH. He's still an American, when all's said and done. Let the lefties monopolize hate.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-22 1:08:42 AM  

#11  Question: What would sKerry be thinking as the sawing motion was meeting his neck?

Maybe I shoulda bought ammo for my Chinese AK?
Posted by: badanov   2004-09-22 1:08:27 AM  

#10  Question:
What would sKerry be thinking as the sawing motion was meeting his neck?
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-22 1:05:54 AM  

#9  Kerry would do much better as premier of Canada. After all, he does speak French and he's got the anti-Americanism schtick cold. It appalls me to think that 40% of Americans think this supercilious poseur could be president and that those people won't understand what this ad says to the rest of us.
Posted by: Random thoughts   2004-09-22 1:03:18 AM  

#8  Long hair, there's a simple solution: exile. Or better, trade a US Mikey Maroon type for an EU scientist or frustrated tech genius.

US idiot drain/EU brian drain: that's what I call a good trade.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-22 1:01:33 AM  

#7  I am just so fucking frustrated with this all. My country is being eaten from within. Michael Moore, this clown John Kerry, the whole LLL. There going to get us killed!!
What is happening is worst case scenario. We as a people have divided ourselves. We are doing exactly as the left would want. But the worst of it all is the fucking IslamoNazi's feed from it and gather strength. I am so ashamed of the Left right now I consider them as low as the sand niggers killing my neighbor. I am beyond angry I am vengeful. I just don't think we should take this any longer. This is a parasitical cult that must be eliminated!!
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-22 12:57:54 AM  

#6  Thisis pathetic. Bad for democracy to have such a lame and quisling opposition party. We desperately need a serious debate on Iraq and Iran, and Kerry's party is incapable of offering anything like a coherent and principled position on the above. Decadence....
Posted by: lex   2004-09-22 12:56:27 AM  

#5  I went looking for that and found a video link from polipundit that was pretty devestaing. I don't know whether it's new or old.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-22 12:53:26 AM  

#4  Devastating.
Posted by: AzCat   2004-09-22 12:53:13 AM  

#3  This ad comes at a very good time.

In New York yesterday, Kerry just restated his opposition to the war in Iraq and he has just staked his campaign on that card.

Now, the Swift Boat ad comes out which questions his judgement and raise some legitimate questions about where his true sympathies lie.

And Korora, there will be no damage report. True to themselves, the left will be cursing the water coming in, and questioning why the Kerry Kampaign ran into the torpedo in the first place, rather than running damage control.
Posted by: badanov   2004-09-22 12:50:58 AM  

#2  Swift Boats score a direct hit. Damage report, anyone?
Posted by: Korora   2004-09-22 12:44:42 AM  

#1  That is sweet!! At this point and time, if this asshole get's elected.....
I am so bummed about what has happened to the men who are being beheaded. I know sKerry would be much worst than Bush, but right now, neither is looking very good and I wish I had my finger on the tigger. MECCA WOULD BE GONE TONIGHT!! I would kill 100,000 of them everytime we lost a man. Islam is the enemy and must be destroyed. Find a mosque. Know the exists. Unite as Jefferson would have ask for. Eliminate them!!
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-09-22 12:21:28 AM  

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