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| Marines begin raids on Fallujah |
| 2004-10-15 |
| U.S. Marines launched air and ground attacks yesterday on the rebel bastion Fallujah after city representatives suspended peace talks with the government over Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's demand to hand over terror mastermind Abu Musab Zarqawi. More in link |
| Posted by:Mark Espinola |
| #16 I mean, will not be spun, and undone. |
| Posted by: lex 2004-10-15 3:10:11 PM |
| #15 Nope, the MSM won't be able to Tet-Tet this one. Uncle Walter was deemed credible by a majority of US viewers in 1968; DanBlather's considered a joke by most network viewers today, who themselves are a diminishing minority. I haven't seen a network newscast in about seven years. No, this time, our troops' victory will not be unspun. |
| Posted by: lex 2004-10-15 3:09:37 PM |
| #14 AFP reports - US is asking UK to redeploy troops from the quiet south, possibly to Baghdad, to free up US troops for Fallujah or elsewhere. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-10-15 2:57:46 PM |
| #13 If there is a major assault we won't here about it for 72 hours. They'll be using the Stealth Strykers. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-10-15 2:23:45 PM |
| #12 And of course the media will only tell us how many troops died instead of telling us about the success. |
| Posted by: Quarterdeck 2004-10-15 2:22:55 PM |
| #11 Bang! Just kidding! This is it! Bang! Nope. Get 'em looking around and jumpy. If there is a major assault we won't here about it for 72 hours. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-10-15 2:20:52 PM |
| #10 CNN reports Marines and Iraqi forces have set up checkpoints around the city. Hat tip Command Post. Another story from CP said 1000 troops in the assualt. That would be the 1 marine battalion, I guess, plus some Iraqi forces. This may not be the main effort, but it looks like a very serious battlefield preparation effort. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-10-15 1:18:38 PM |
| #9 thanks OS. |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-10-15 12:11:15 PM |
| #8 One thing that works aains tthis being the main effort is the reports say there is only one battalion of Marines involved. If this were the main effort, there would be a brigade's worth of forces there, plus 2 or so Iraqi battalions to clear the "sensitive" reas liek the Mosques, and for rear security. The Marines would at least have a few companies to a battalion or more, of US Army heavy vehicles (Abrahms tanks, Bradley AFVs) cross attached for the urban fighting they are doing, like they did in An Najaf. If you see Army troops turning up and Iraqi battalion in the mix, then you know its the main effort, or at least they are serious about going into "indian country" and clearing chunks of it out. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-10-15 11:51:09 AM |
| #7 This is it, the NEWS, resumpsution of April's clean up. |
| Posted by: Slinerong Chomoque1551 2004-10-15 10:44:18 AM |
| #6 OS 's take sounds right - misdirection and softening up. Sends a message and keeps the pressure on. Is there a town with a more fatalistic name than Hit? Oh yeah, the Iranian quake town, Bam LOL |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-10-15 9:52:35 AM |
| #5 These are probes and recon in force. They are not ht emain effort. If anything, they may be distractions, to allow Ramadi, Hit or Buquoaba to be set up for a surprise hammerblow from inside and out like Samarra, without news cameras or clues issued to people inside. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-10-15 9:49:46 AM |
| #4 Damnit, I hate these cluster-fuck news-roundup crap articles. Report on the phricking Green Zone attack. Full stop. Then, in a separate story, report on the sustained / renewed / increased / whatever action in Fafuckingllujah, idiots. What sort of dipshit J-School AP Stylebook Bullshit is this? One thing is certain - it sucks as journalism. I absolutely, 100% agree. So there. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-10-15 9:44:51 AM |
| #3 The US military must love it that these journalists are so enept. They probably pay the bar bill at the hotels just to keep them there. Their idea of "reporting" is log into Defense.mil and call Dr. Graves at the hospital to get the latest body count...which they seem to report with morbid glee. But I HATE IT. WHAT'S GOING ON!!!! |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-10-15 5:13:00 AM |
| #2 Ground attacks? Where? What part? What effect? Damnit, I hate these cluster-fuck news-roundup crap articles. Report on the phricking Green Zone attack. Full stop. Then, in a separate story, report on the sustained / renewed / increased / whatever action in Fafuckingllujah, idiots. What sort of dipshit J-School AP Stylebook Bullshit is this? One thing is certain - it sucks as journalism. "Abu Asaad, spokesman for the religious council of Fallujah, said that 'handing over Zarqawi' was an 'impossible condition' since even the Americans were unable to catch him." Uh, really? Why's that? The two are not related - and the US has not yet (maybe happening now, finally) had the green light to reduce Fallujah and see, after the fun is finished, if ol' Zarqi's remains can be ID'd. I'll bet he's enroute to wherever he thinks he can ride this out right this minute. "'Since we exhausted all peaceful solutions, the city is now ready to bear arms and defend its religion and honor and it's not afraid of Allawi's statements,' Mr. Asaad said in an interview with Al Jazeera television." Uh, huh. Musta been one of those cell-phone exclusives, since Al Jizz is still banned, right? I'm bettin' the baby duck, puppy, and kitten supply will be heavily reduced when the 'honor' of the 'Slamists gets whacked. By all means - everyone inclined to do so should bear arms and fight. Makes it easier to pacify if all the asshats die in the confrontation. 'Too stupid to live' is the phrase that comes to mind - right after target-rich environment, that is. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-10-15 5:07:16 AM |
| #1 good luck! Stay Safe! God Bless! |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-10-15 3:26:57 AM |