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| Nuke equipment removed by professionals in Iraq: diplomats |
| 2004-10-15 |
| Nuclear equipment and materials in Iraq were dismantled and removed by professionals systematically, diplomats here said Thursday, indicating that this work has lasted at least one year since 2003. The diplomats pointed out that the removal of the nuclear equipment was well organized by professionals who should have suchlarge-sized machines as heavy lifting equipment and heavy-duty trucks. And the whole operation could not be completed within a short period. Their comments contradicted earlier statements of the United States and the Iraqi interim government, which insisted that the nuclear equipment had been looted shortly after the US-led invasion. Iraqi Science and Technology Minster Rashad Omar said Tuesday the nuclear facilities have been under well protection of the Iraqi interim government, and he also invited the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to visit the sites at any time. In a report submitted Monday to the UN Security Council, IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei said satellite images show equipment and materials that could be used to make nuclear weapons have vanished from Iraq. Entire buildings once monitored and tagged by the agency have been dismantled, and equipment and materials in open storage areashave been removed, ElBaradei said. |
| Posted by:Mark Espinola |
| #23 I bet the stuff was just looted, bashed to bits and sold for scrap. The IAEA is a bunch of dickless clowns. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-10-15 8:19:28 PM |
| #22 Bet RC got it, and like VAM implies, sometimes you just gotta do the right thing even if it won't help ya. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-10-15 2:18:57 PM |
| #21 Thanks, RC. Makes a lot of sense, and doesn't even bring Macchiavelli into it. |
| Posted by: VAMark 2004-10-15 1:27:44 PM |
| #20 Why would we do it so quietly and choose to take 18 months of needless "no WMD" heat, though? First, doing it quietly keeps it out of the press, which means jihadis wouldn't know there were trucks full of nuclear materials driving along Iraq's highways. Second, doing it quietly avoids setting off any hyper-nationalist "we should be ALLOWED to have nukes" sense among the Iraqis. Thirdly, it avoids getting the IAEA entangled in the mess. They're incompetent to the point of making you wonder if it's intentional. Their likely reaction to any open "let's get this out of there" plan would be to stomp their feet and insist that since the material's "under seal" it's not going anywhere. Finally, everyone knew Iraq had a nuclear program and lots of equipment and materials hanging around. It didn't and wouldn't have changed the "no WMD" lies one bit -- consider that various bioweapon cultures found in one of Saddam's researcher's fridge didn't make a dent in the "no WMD" lie. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-10-15 1:16:29 PM |
| #19 Nuclear Equipment - Retrofitted by John Edwards' legal colleagues to be used fot spinal cord injury cures... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-10-15 12:26:01 PM |
| #18 I certainly hope RC is right - 'gotcha' games about cognitive dissonance are great fun, but this is a huge screw-up if it wasn't us dismantling those buildings. Why would we do it so quietly and choose to take 18 months of needless "no WMD" heat, though? I'm not Machiavellian enough to figure out the upside of that - probably couldn't spell it, either. |
| Posted by: VAMark 2004-10-15 11:35:58 AM |
| #17 But, but, none of this crap was supposed to have existed!!!! |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-10-15 11:26:11 AM |
| #16 that would be cool. It would also explain the squawking from the Russians and why the UN members are scrambling like dogs on linoleum to be the first to get to a microphone on this issue. |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-10-15 10:08:11 AM |
| #15 Anyone for a slice of October slice pie? |
| Posted by: Johnnie Bartlette 2004-10-15 10:00:38 AM |
| #14 I'm with RC - we wouldn't have missed this op and stayed nonplussed about it |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-10-15 9:19:36 AM |
| #13 My opinion on the "missing" equipment, since it's gone missing since the invasion, is that it's on its way to a US warehouse in Tennessee for eventual disposal, just like the Libyan nuclear program. I haven't got any proof of that, but the fact that BUILDINGS have disappeared and that the US and Iraqi governments are both so non-chalant and non-committal about it makes me think they're involved. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-10-15 9:08:41 AM |
| #12 I think they're preparing the ground for blaming the US if Iraqi WMD actually show up or are used somewhere. |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2004-10-15 8:56:47 AM |
| #11 I thought that was a social disease, red. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2004-10-15 8:49:36 AM |
| #10 Well, I figure you won't be able to accurately comprehend your external inputs, will initially seize up like a neural vapor lock and, when that inferential pressure differential dissipates, you'll be able to cover boths sides of the argument all by yourself, right? *snicker* |
| Posted by: .com 2004-10-15 8:49:07 AM |
| #9 What about us cognitive dissidents? |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2004-10-15 8:36:43 AM |
| #8 One of my fav pix, heh. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-10-15 7:59:08 AM |
| #7 .com! That was so underhanded! Liquid warning please! I am lucky I have a spare keyboard! :-) |
| Posted by: Memesis 2004-10-15 7:26:56 AM |
| #6 Poor me! All this time I've thought the term was cognitive dissonance. I'm so confused - and embarrassed. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-10-15 7:20:37 AM |
| #5 LOL! |
| Posted by: Memesis 2004-10-15 6:16:13 AM |
| #4 well, I would have, but I didn't know how to spell cognitive dissidence. |
| Posted by: leftie l 2004-10-15 6:13:27 AM |
| #3 LL, you forgotten to add a bit of some meaningfull elucidation like: "The characteristic theme of Reicher's[6] essay on Batailleist `powerful communication' is a precultural reality. Therefore, Debord uses the term 'constructivism' to denote not situationism as such, but subsituationism. An abundance of discourses concerning dialectic neomaterialist theory may be revealed. But the subject is interpolated into a materialist materialism that includes truth as a totality. Constructivism implies that society, ironically, has intrinsic meaning. However, the subject is contextualised into a dialectic paradigm of context that includes sexuality as a paradox. Lacan uses the term 'constructivism' to denote the bridge between sexual identity and society. Thus, Dietrich[7] suggests that we have to choose between Batailleist `powerful communication' and precapitalist sublimation. Baudrillard's model of materialist materialism states that the goal of the participant is social comment." |
| Posted by: Memesis 2004-10-15 6:09:10 AM |
| #2 ???? what's your point?? Bush-Hitler lied and people died! America is bad! Illegal War! Peace in our Time!! squawk, squawk. |
| Posted by: leftie lemming 2004-10-15 5:56:32 AM |
| #1 Riddle me this... What the fuck is/was nuke equippment doing in Iraq, when there was no WMD or WMD potential there? It simply does not compute. Either there was WMD danger, or there was not. It can't be both ways. |
| Posted by: Memesis 2004-10-15 5:48:37 AM |
