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Iraq-Jordan
All the makings of a war crime
2004-11-08
A US-led attack on the Iraqi Sunni-stronghold will breach the Geneva conventions, writes Tony Kevin.
I included the above so we all know what wrote this dribble....
We need to be clear on what is about to happen in the Iraqi city of Falluja, about 64 kilometres west of Baghdad and a key centre of Sunni population in Iraq. This city has for many months held out as a centre of Sunni-based political-military resistance, refusing to accept the authority either of the former US-led occupying authority nor, since July, of the interim Iraqi administration led by the Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi.
No mention of the murders, beheadings or other activites of these 'resistors'?
Falluja is now to be brought to heel by overwhelming military power. As I write this, the US attack on the city has begun. The message to Falluja from the US armed forces in Iraq and from Allawi was brutally simple: submit now to Baghdad's authority or face attack.
If Sydney was occupied by Islamic nutbags the Aussies would be saying much the same...
Posted by:CrazyFool

#22  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-09 1:47:37 AM  

#21  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-09 1:47:37 AM  

#20  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-08 9:39:16 PM  

#19  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-08 9:40:47 PM  

#18  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-08 9:40:47 PM  

#17  Tony Kevin is an ex-diplomat nutcase that Professor Bunyip has endless fun fisking.
As for "destroying the city to save it". Ah yes, brings to mind Peter Arnett totemic statement, when he pulled the usual leftist trick.
When faced by inconvenient facts, he lied. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" he quotes an unnamed source as saying.
Of course he was referring to Ben Tre ( a town, not a village) which was destroyed by the Vietcong.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-08 9:39:16 PM  

#16  Y'know, I'm getting tired of these rats. Also of AP "journalists" working with the "insurgents". It's time to show these assclowns that if you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. I think it only appropriate that they be returned to the scene of the "crime" they're accusing us of - from about 50,000 feet, without a parachute. Who knows, one of them might land on an "insurgent" and actually do some good for a change.

It's absolutely hilarious that these jokers can be so holier than thou when their butt's not on the line, but if they get caught in the middle of something 'hot', they scream like stuck pigs. I have no sympathy with any of them. Let them join the enemy they support, and get the same 'reward'.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-11-08 11:50:37 PM  

#15  Exactly what makes it such an "optimistic scenario" to have the Falluja terrorists "melt away?

Actually melt is a very apt term for what is about to befall the Islamofascists.
Posted by: badanov   2004-11-08 11:38:39 PM  

#14  It is still possible that resistance in Falluja will melt away in the face of US attack. While this would be a more optimistic scenario, I think it more likely at this point that the insurgents will fight, because too much is at stake politically for them to accept a bloodless Allawi victory.

Exactly what makes it such an "optimistic scenario" to have the Falluja terrorists "melt away?" Wouldn't it be far better to have them contained in one war zone where they can no longer continue to slaughter innocent Iraqi citizens in droves?

Wouldn't it be far more desirable to have all of these maggots clustered up where a minimum of collateral damage is needed to exterminate so many ruthless killers?

Oh, sorry, I guess Tony is working the other side of the street.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-11-08 11:03:23 PM  

#13  >moralise about abortions and gay marriages< I think I can guess what's really bugging this guy.

...that his heterosexually married mother refused to have an abortion while carrying him?
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-11-08 9:58:11 PM  

#12  "looks like it is about to be blasted out of existence"
Note that we have no evidence of a war crime other than this pompous clown's own claims and suppositions about US intentions and the likely course of events, all of which are strongly contradicted by documented fact and experience.
This thundering moral pronouncement is, in fact, demonizing propaganda willfully and maliciously created for the concious purpose of aiding international terrorism and inciting the murder of Americans. As such, I believe that it is an actual, literal war crime under the precedent established at the trial of Julius Streicher in 1946.
Follow his path, share his fate.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-11-08 9:56:57 PM  

#11  >moralise about abortions and gay marriages<

I think I can guess what's really bugging this guy.
Posted by: davemac   2004-11-08 9:09:56 PM  

#10  Personally, I think we're missing our chance. Publicize a program whereby any rabid jihadi madman on earth can apply and get an all-expenses paid one-way FIRST CLASS ticket to Baghdad International Airport. Upon deplaing, he is issued a brand new black terrorist jumpsuit with hood, a shiny new AK-47, and a badoleer of bullets. Then driven by air-conditioned limousine to Fallujah.

Bring in about 50 Boeing 747 loads worth of the most vile scum-sucking terrorists on earth. Put them all in one place. Then carpet bomb Fallujah into serving as the "not so grand" canyon.

I cannot imagine any scenario better than bringing together the diaspora of Alqadadites into one neatly arranged bulls eye, and then vaporizing the nearest fifty grid squares.

I think it'd be a good time to inspire a little bit of awe among the lesser jihadi cockroaches of the world.
Posted by: Lone Ranger   2004-11-08 8:50:23 PM  

#9  Yo Tony! I know Warsaw. Fallujah is no Warsaw. Now go join the resistance...if you feel so strongly about it.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-11-08 8:28:22 PM  

#8   The message the siege of Falluja sends is brutally simple: resist us and we will destroy you.
How dramatic! Actually, it is just the same message the Texas Rangers used to send to bandits, train robbers and general miscreants: Y'all behave yourselves, or we'll come and kick your sorry asses. To paraphrase Borges, it's the same situation; only the time, the place and a few proper names have changed. That and the level of armament.
Posted by: SteveS   2004-11-08 8:27:11 PM  

#7  Okay, Tony, you think this is Warsaw 1944? Let's try a different set of analogies: 1945 leveling of Berlin, firebombing of Tokyo, nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"The message the siege of Falluja sends is brutally simple: resist us and we will destroy you." Damn right. Tell them, not us.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-08 8:12:47 PM  

#6  This guy does the ye old moral equivalency trick. Notice that he made no mention of the atrocities committed by Zarqawi and his band of merry men. In fact he refers to the Warsaw Uprising of 1944, so he makes the terrorists in Fallujah out to be knights of a righteous cause.

Basically, this guy hates the US and chooses to ignore any atrocities in front of his face in Iraq. Nobody should have the time of day for this LLL asshat and apologist for cutthroat terrorists.

A pox---a proletariat pox upon his body politic.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-08 8:07:32 PM  

#5  I couldn't find the part of the Geneva Convention that approves of beheading of kidnapped civilians. Hope this wonderfully insightful person is embedded with the insurgents. They might even reserve him a few virgins.
Posted by: RWV   2004-11-08 8:01:23 PM  

#4  Who is this assclown and what planet/world is he living in/on? I don't feel like registering to find out but this sounds just like the Democrat whinging Moonbat froth we see so often it's identified at as in the first paragraph. This was not exception it just appears to be from Oz not Washington DC.

Falluja can't not and will not remain the headquarters of the killers of hundreds of Iraqi citizen who have commited no crime but be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The tribal, religious and civic members of Iraq selected the current quite independent leadership of Iraq. He has ordered this action which has Iraqi troops on the pointy end of the stick. If this whinging asshat can't get a grip on it he can join the rest of the diptards that are planning on killing themselves because Bush won.

These diptards in Falluja could have avoided this by leaving. Now no one is going to leave. I like the idea of gathering all the dead and incenerating the remains so no one can or will morn their useless lives. No pictures. Everything scraped into a big pile and dumped at sea when they are done.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-11-08 7:57:46 PM  

#3  Well, as my grandpa used to say: "You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette." As far as I'm concerned, draining that swamp and collecting the fish at the bottom is the greatest service our military can provide. Freedom (from terror and terrorist) is neither cheap nor easily achieved. God speed to our brave men and women in uniform.
Posted by: Reality Check   2004-11-08 7:49:04 PM  

#2  Fallujah. Level the sonbitch.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen   2004-11-08 7:40:53 PM  

#1  "Warsaw Uprising 1944" (!!!)
Yow! Now we are NAZIS?! If so, then who plays the part of the Kaminski Brigade? Inquiring minds want to know...
Posted by: borgboy   2004-11-08 7:21:01 PM  

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