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Iran says nuke talks in final stages
2004-11-13
Iran's negotiations with the European Union over a deal which would spare Tehran from possible U.N. sanctions are in their final stages, Iran's Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi says. "Negotiations with Europe were intense and important and ... they are in their final stages," Kharrazi told state television on Saturday. "We have given them our final response and await their final decision and we hope to pass this stage smoothly."

Iran and the European Union's big three powers -- Britain, Germany and France -- have been negotiating a deal for the past few weeks under which Tehran would agree to freeze sensitive nuclear work such as uranium enrichment. In return, the EU would not support U.S. calls for Iran's case to be sent to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions and would sit down with Iran to work out a solution to the nuclear dispute. Iran insists its nuclear ambitions are limited to generating electricity from atomic power plants, not making bombs. Tehran gave its response to the EU deal on Thursday but there has been no announcement yet of a final agreement. EU diplomats say Iran has been trying to change some of the terms of the deal, including the scope of the enrichment suspension.
Posted by:Mark Espinola

#15  Agreed, all above - time is nigh to use the anti-mullah populace of Iran (and do not doubt they want liberation) to overthrow these bastards. Saves Israel needing to nuke M/M, Tehran, Damascus and Riyadh, leading to a savings in "innocent" lives
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-13 7:23:58 PM  

#14  What Mrs D said. Iran's MO is to use proxies-- Hezbollah mainly-- to attack not just Israel but our own diplomats and overseas installations. Iran is now crawling with hundreds of Al Qaeda displaced from Afghanistan (incl Bin Laden's son). OF COURSE the mullahs will slip a few dirty nukes to the AQ operatives on their soil for use against US targets, most likely via container cargo on ships docking at a port near you.

All of which means Israel's bunker busters will fly within another six months.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-13 7:18:58 PM  

#13  OK Frank,
I believe Dubia and 85% of the American people will support us in hard times. Its just the State Department Pro Arab Bozos that I dont really trust.

Mojo,
The "Samson option" will occur only after Tel-Aviv
is already nuked with 30% of Israel's population in it.
The smart move would be Mullah Castration(TM) well before this can happen.
While I may occationaly joke about these things, I siriously believe we need to take very strong pre-emptive measures against this threat.
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-13 7:12:28 PM  

#12  Rational actors might be persuaded by your logic mojo. But mullahs who know that Allen protects them and that Jooos cannot have a real bomb, it is only a lie created by the Jooo controlled media are not to be depended upon to reach the same conclusion.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 7:12:15 PM  

#11  Nuking any city in Israel would bring on the famous "Sampson Option" scenario. Things would get real ugly, real quick - and not just in Israel and Iran.
Posted by: mojo   2004-11-13 7:02:17 PM  

#10  Mrs. D - good question - no, not nearly as confident, but maybe I could have been pleasantly surprised? He always went whatever way the polls/weathervane went
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-13 6:56:31 PM  

#9  Frank, would you feel so confident about your statement if Kerry had won?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 6:33:33 PM  

#8  not respond? Israel will handle itself while we have their back and take the conventional war to the mullahs - after the fallout settles, of course. EOZ: You underestimate American support for the only democracy in the ME
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-13 6:25:58 PM  

#7  P.S.
I dont think the Mullah's are so stupid to
nuke an American City.
I think they really want to nuke Tel-Aviv
because the Europeans will applaud
and the Americans will probably not want to escalate the situation, so they would not respond.
This is why I think that as we stand to loose
the most, it is Israel which will finally have
to castrate the Mullahs.
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-13 6:06:32 PM  

#6  Tik, Tok, Tik, Tok................
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-13 5:58:34 PM  

#5  The Iranian government is genuinely afraid of us, and why not -- we're in neighboring Afghanistan and Iraq, we're in the gulf, we back up Israel, etc. What could be better for them than a mutually-assured destruction (MAD) scenario as in the Cold War? They may not be able to wipe us out, but what U.S. President is going to risk losing New York or Washington or Chicago?

The Europeans are opportunists who need trade and oil. If it goes MAD, they get the trade and the oil. So it's totally in their interests right now to suck up to the Mullahs. In fact, it's probably in their interests to let Iran get the bomb behind the cloak of negotiations and diplomacy. This is like dealing with Kimmie -- the longer it goes on, the worse it gets.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-13 11:51:25 AM  

#4  Mrs D I agree with your overview that in the case of Iran if the mullahs are foolish enough to launch just one nuclear weapon regardless of size, the White House should state publicly there will be swift retaliation directly against the Tehran regimé. This is another thought. When the eventual confrontation between the U.S. & Iran arrives & being that the ruling mullahs preach fanatical, suicidal Shi'itism to the brainwashed jihad happy humanoids we must conclude the mullahs mindset is not to be taken alive, since they know all too well the majority Iranians born after 1979 desire true freedom & full justice for all those at the top of Iran's brutal Islamic dictatorship.

Since the tyrants of Tehran will not surrender but shall lash out at 'the West' (U.S.) by firing missiles across the Gulf directly at the Saudi oil fields, triggering global market pandemonium, such as never seen before. The mullahs will demonstrate their bunker mentality attempting to destroy what they can not control, unless a coup could be successfully staged prior tension in the Mid-East reaching dangerous geostrategic levels.
JerseyMike, In terms of the E.U. crowd in conjunction with like minded U.N. cohorts constantly allowing Iran further extensions allowing the terrorist promoting mullahs to race ahead in the development & fine tuning of their nuclear weapons programme, it is simply out of habit this thing called historic Euro appeasement of dictatorial monsters.


Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-13 11:20:35 AM  

#3  Nukes have to be the most over-rated weapon ever developed. Their only value is to intimidate powers that don't have them. If you think the US would be intimidated by Iranian nukes, you are mistaken. If any country dared to use nukes against us, we'd destroy that country. Now, Saudi Arabia is another question. Without a doubt, the Shiites in Tehran could scare the Sunni in Riyadh into changing their robes.

Who would use nukes is terrorists. Who would give them nukes is the axis of evil. Therefore, we should go to MAD/2. It should be our publicly stated policy that if an atomic device is detonated anywhere in the world outside a test site, the US will make uninhabitable the lands of all members of the axis of evil and kill all living things thereon.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 8:27:21 AM  

#2  Why is it the Euro's feel the need to go through these useless motions?
They ought to take a look at our own Madeline Halfbrights failed efforts with the Nork's for an idea of whats going to happen next. The Mullahs will continue their secret effort over the next year or two until there is a mushroom cloud in the desert or an announcement that they now have an arsenal of a couple of nukes.
Iran no doubt feels the only way to be safe from US intervention is to have the bomb. They will pursue it relentlessly, and the Euro's will walk away crowing about peace in out time - again. And we all know what that got us.
In a world of JerseyMike foreign policy the only message that would be sent to Iran is - if you want nukes go ahead and build them, but then you get to see how ours work up close.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-11-13 8:14:54 AM  

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Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-13 4:53:00 AM  

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