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Chirac questions US-led Iraq war
2004-11-17
French President Jacques Chirac says he is "not at all sure" the world has become safer with the removal from power of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. In a BBC interview Mr Chirac suggests the situation in Iraq has helped to prompt an increase in terrorism.
Strange, I haven't noticed an increase in terrorism in the U.S., have you?
The interview, to be aired on BBC Two's Newsnight programme on Wednesday, comes ahead of his visit to the UK this week.

President Chirac also maintains that any intervention in Iraq should have been through the United Nations. "To a certain extent Saddam Hussein's departure was a positive thing, " Mr Chirac says when asked if the world is safer now, as US President George W Bush has repeatedly stated. "But it also provoked reactions, such as the mobilisation in a number of countries, of men and women of Islam, which has made the world more dangerous to French business interests," Mr Chirac says. "There's no doubt that there has been an increase in terrorism and one of the origins of that has been the situation in Iraq. I'm not at all sure that one can say that the world is safer."

He also signals that he believes Britain's support for the US-led war has brought few dividends. In an earlier interview with British journalists, Mr Chirac said Prime Minister Tony Blair had received nothing in return for backing the Bush administration. "I'm not sure it is in the nature of our American friends at the moment to return favours systematically," he said. "I am not sure, with America as it is these days, that it would be easy for someone, even the British, to be an honest broker."
Does the French language have a word for 'honest', or does Chirac have to switch to English?
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Posted by: JonS   2004-11-17 11:16:01 PM  

#23  Once upon a time in a nice little forest, there lived an orphaned bunny and an orphaned snake. By a surprising coincidence, both were blind from birth.

One day, the bunny was hopping through the forest, and the snake was slithering through the forest, when the bunny tripped over the snake and fell down. This, of course, knocked the snake about quite a bit.

"Oh, my," said the bunny, "I'm terribly sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you. I've been blind since birth, so, I can't see where I'm going. In fact, since I'm also an orphan, I don't even know what I am."

"It's quite OK," replied the snake. "Actually, my story is much the same as yours. I, too, have been blind since birth, and also never knew my mother. Tell you what, maybe I could slither all over you, and work out what you are, so at least you'll have that going for you."

"Oh, that would be wonderful" replied the bunny. So the snake slithered all over the bunny, and said, "Well, you're covered with soft fur; you have really long ears; your nose twitches; and you have a soft cottony tail. I'd say that you must be a bunny rabbit."

"Oh, thank you! Thank you," cried the bunny, in obvious excitement. The bunny suggested to the snake, "Maybe I could feel you all over with my paw, and help you the same way that you've helped me."

So the bunny felt the snake all over, and remarked, "Well, you're smooth and slippery, and you have a forked tongue, no backbone and no balls. I'd say you must be French
Posted by: reality check   2004-11-17 6:18:25 PM  

#22  "However, I'm certain that I've become poorer due to the American's unilateralism."
Posted by: danking70   2004-11-17 5:30:47 PM  

#21  Much of what Chirac says is designed to keep is butt out of pound me in the ass prison. The minute Chirac is not longer the Premire has butt is going to be indited for crimes he has been involved in before he became Premire.

Everything he does is either about gettting money for his political slush fund or staying out of a French court. He has a small amount of support in France. He and his party were literally the lesser evil in the last election. These statements resonate with the average narrow minded frenchman/woman.

To understand Chirac you must understand France beyond the sterotype.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-11-17 4:40:55 PM  

#20  The logic is to resist l'hyperpuissance americaine wherever possible and where it does not hurt France economically to do so.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-17 2:10:54 PM  

#19  Open source...you're trying to mix LOGIC and FRANCE. Doesn't work.
Posted by: Justrand   2004-11-17 2:03:31 PM  

#18  Why is the world being safer the criterion by which the war should be judged? Was the world safer in 1943 when the US was ramping up its war effort? The world will not be safer until our enemies are defeated and that will take a long time.
Posted by: open source   2004-11-17 2:01:11 PM  

#17  I wish W would call these @sshats out on the carpet for being the appeasing, corrupt, obnoxious, smelly, whiny, cowardly, arrogant, weaselly, opportunistic, anti-American f*cks that the world knows them to be. It's amazing -- an entire country full of dirtbags.
Posted by: Tibor   2004-11-17 1:12:10 PM  

#16  Imam Chirac needs to either officialy allign himself with the jihadists so that we can 'officially' include him in the axis (he has been an unofficial member in my book for some time now) or shut up.
Posted by: J   2004-11-17 1:01:49 PM  

#15  You mean France is NOT supporting the liberation of Iraq? This changes EVERYTHING! Get George Bush on the line..tell him to stop the invasion!!

Thank God Chirac's message got through in time!
Posted by: Justrand   2004-11-17 12:35:33 PM  

#14  "such as the mobilisation in a number of countries, of men and women of Islam"

What mobilisation would that be, Jacques? The highest estimate I have seen of the number of "insurgents" in Iraq is 50,000 (and the Marines have recently adjusted that number downward by a thousand or two.) This is out of a total Arab population of about 260 million. So, seething aside, the byword still seems to be: start the Jihad without me.

If he's referring to Muslim unrest in Sweden or the Netherlands, it's hard to see how those developments were caused by us rolling tanks into Baghdad without putting blue helmets on our tankers first.
Posted by: Matt   2004-11-17 11:58:57 AM  

#13  Chirac's game is pretty obvious-- it's the same one France's elite has been playing since 1945: triangulate between the US and its primary rival.
Gain the benefits of US heavy lifting on global security and economic matters while positioning yourself as the spokesman for those who resent the US.

In the middle east, this means championing jihadists and fascists. Aside from a few more contracts for Total and Alcatel and Bouygues, what benefit does this pro-fascist policy provide France? Is it worth it?

Really, if the French want to continue the triangulation policy, wouldn't it be smarter to cozy up to China rather than a collection of neck-sawers, stonethrowers and piddling little RPG-hurlers?
Posted by: lex   2004-11-17 11:52:08 AM  

#12  He also errs in assuming Blair got in the WOT to get something from the U. S. as opposed to doing something in the national interest of the U. K. with the U. S. Some times nation's interests are coincident and they do not need to be part of coalitions of the bribed, the coerced, the bought and the extorted, like France.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-17 11:32:35 AM  

#11  Chirac makes the same fatal error that many buffoons in the past have made. He assumes that openly sneering at someone accomplishes something, like a nasty small boy hiding behind a chain link fence cursing at a police officer. The officer *does* notice, but he does nothing at the time. Later, when he chances on the nasty small boy alone in a dark alley, well...actions speak louder than words.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2004-11-17 11:26:43 AM  

#10  Chirac said Prime Minister Tony Blair had received nothing in return for backing the Bush administration. "I’m not sure it is in the nature of our American friends at the moment to return favours systematically," he said.

Oh, Mssr Chirac, you truly are floundering. First of all, that presumption has really not been put to the test yet. You better hope it never is. Britain has nothing to fear-they have given so much in this fight on terror and therefore have solid American loyalty and gratitude towards them. France, on the other hand, has given little and in some instances, has actually taken instead of given. France SHOULD be concerned about who they're going to get help from. Their unwillingness to lift their own weight and help in the WoT DOES kinda leave their bare butt hanging out the window.

France's ingratitude never fails to astound. It is amazing that, after the Ivory Coast/UN/American position yesterday, France still doesn't recognize or appreciate America's helping them out. Well, we can't be held accountable for your intellectual shortcomings Jacques. Apparently, you are not a quick study.

Of course, we can always accommodate his prediction that he will get nothing from us, should France and its leadership choose to remain parasitic, ingracious and provocative.
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-17 11:16:52 AM  

#9  The headline I'd like to see:

"Rice Questions Viability of Chirac-Led France"
Posted by: Mike   2004-11-17 11:13:49 AM  

#8  Dear Diary:

Of course the Iraq War was a mistake. Before the War,Saddam paid millions to me and my friends. Now,nothing! What is worse,others now see that I cannot protect my special friends and they are starting to refuse to pay me protection money. Now I have to send my Army to some piece of merde African country to show you cannot mess w/me.
And another thing. How does that stupid cowboy have a better smirk than me? Everyone knows Frenchmen have the best smirk in the world,yet that accursed idiot has a smirk that is far better than mine. Ah,the trials God has put me through while I restore France to the glory that is rightly mine,I mean,Hers.
Posted by: Stephen   2004-11-17 11:03:38 AM  

#7  I see the French and all are working their time-tested technique of appeasement on Iran and its nuke program. IIRC, Chamberlain got an agreement from Chancellor Hitler in 1936, which resulted in WW2 in Sept. 1939. So that little accomplishment bought him 3 years and the the biggest sh*tfest the world has ever seen.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-17 10:55:57 AM  

#6  Monsieur Chiraq is "not at all sure" about so many things these days. I think Rantburg's own JFM may well have called it correctly when he diagnosed senility.
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-11-17 10:51:29 AM  

#5  "He also signals that he believes Britain’s support for the US-led war has brought few dividends. In an earlier interview with British journalists, Mr Chirac said Prime Minister Tony Blair had received nothing in return for backing the Bush administration."

And what the Hell, may I ask, have we ever received from France for liberating them from the Nazis? Absolutely nothing.

Blair has earned our respect and our trust-- two things this corrupt Frog probably cannot even understand, much less value.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-11-17 10:46:51 AM  

#4  A nice, clear message for Jacques can be found here.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-11-17 10:34:37 AM  

#3  I'd say he's giving Secretary Rice the bird before she's said a word.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-17 10:34:01 AM  

#2  Perhaps the war in Iraq has made the world less safe for appeasers, but from the US side of things it appears far safer to have things blowing up in Iraq and Netherlands rather than Manhattan and Washington DC.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2004-11-17 10:32:48 AM  

#1  Blah, blah, blah. Ribet, ribet, ribet. Same old, same old. Slimey frog.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-17 10:24:31 AM  

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