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Spaniards 'did not bow to terror'
2004-12-14
Spain's prime minister has rejected claims that his election victory was the result of voters bowing to terror in the wake of the Madrid bombings.
"No, no! Certainly not!"
The Socialist Party of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero was elected three days after the train bombs killed 191. Mr Zapatero told a parliamentary commission investigating the 11 March attacks that Spaniards had never submitted to terrorist violence.
"Us Spaniards is tough! We'd never do dat!"
It is the first time a prime minister has appeared before such a commission. He was grilled for more than four hours by members of the conservative opposition Popular Party (PP) which, under Jose Maria Aznar, was in power at the time of the attacks. Mr Zapatero told the commission:
* Mr Aznar had increased the risk of attack by Islamic terrorists by supporting the war on Iraq and such a threat was "clearly underestimated"

* the attacks were exclusively planned and carried out by the same brand of radical Islamic terrorism behind 11 September in the US and subsequent attacks in Bali, Istanbul and Casablanca

* claims that militant Basque separatists Eta were to blame was "a massive deception" by Mr Aznar

* the outgoing PP administration wiped computers of information before they left - particularly material relating to the 11 March attacks

* the Socialists were not behind protest rallies that took place outside PP buildings after the attacks.
Mr Aznar faced the commission two weeks ago. On Monday, Mr Zapatero strongly denied claims that his party had tried to gain political ground from the attacks and he defended the decision made by Spanish voters. At the time of the attacks, senior US Republicans said Spain had succumbed to terrorist threats by ousting Mr Aznar's government. But Mr Zapatero said Spain had endured 30 years of terror under Eta, so why would his countrymen weaken after the bloodshed of the train bombings.
Because of the turbans? Because of the fearsome way they roll their eyes? Because of the blood-curdling threats?
"You did not listen to the Spanish people during the war in Iraq and afterwards the people stopped listening to you and stopped trusting you," he told members of the Popular Party at the hearing. Mr Zapatero withdrew Spanish troops from Iraq soon after taking office. A special side room has been reserved at the hearing for their families, many of whom have accused Spain's politicians of using this parliamentary inquiry more as a political football than as a means of finding out the truth. The parliamentary investigation into the attacks is set to close later this week after four months of hearings. Nineteen people have already been formally charged in connection with the case.
Posted by:tipper

#25  Cool. Hire some of Bambi's associates to hawk them while strolling up and down the beach. Or maybe while holding wash towels in the men's room at the casinos.
Posted by: lex   2004-12-14 5:11:41 PM  

#24  Lex,
your proposition sounds great.
I accept. Meanwhile we can both grow rich
by selling the spaniards leather bound copies of the Kuran and silk embroidered bourkas for the women.
How about it ?
Posted by: EoZ   2004-12-14 5:10:04 PM  

#23  It sounds as if some of the Spaniards are not fond of Zapetero having made them the punchline to many jokes about cowardice, stupidity, and incompetence. Too bad. By voting for Zapetero, they put an end to all the jokes about Poles in general and the Italian miiltary by providing a better target. When compared to Italy and Poland now, Spain looks pretty lame.
Posted by: RWV   2004-12-14 4:32:20 PM  

#22  EoZ - Marbella's already been colonized by the Saudis. I'd propose that Bambi/Zappy offer Andalucia as an opening gambit, with some beachfront in the Costa del Sol.
Posted by: lex   2004-12-14 1:26:02 PM  

#21  The Spaniards didn't bow. They were just groveling. The shame will last a long time.
Posted by: Mark Z.   2004-12-14 1:14:15 PM  

#20  "Mr Aznar had increased the risk of attack by Islamic terrorists by supporting the war on Iraq and such a threat was "clearly underestimated..."

The Spanish people are of course free to vote for whom they wish. It isn't the vote per se that is the "bowing; it is the philosphy behind the statement above, so popular in Spain, that is the bowing. It is an exact wording of the idea: "we asked for it". There is no such thing as 'asking for terror'. And so the void between Euro and American foreign policy philosophies grows to gargantuan dimensions...
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-12-14 11:47:56 AM  

#19  Spain’s prime minister has rejected claims that his election victory was the result of voters bowing to terror in the wake of the Madrid bombings.

"Watch Mr. Zapatero's nose grow, boys and girls..."
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-14 11:34:18 AM  

#18  CiD? Not me, nor OSS.
Posted by: Col Flagg   2004-12-14 11:33:57 AM  

#17  sounds like the Spaniards are waking up to their mistake. That recent VDH article comes to mind.
Posted by: 2b   2004-12-14 10:09:12 AM  

#16  They didn't bow - they just grabbed their ankles.
Posted by: Sloting Gronter5111   2004-12-14 9:54:35 AM  

#15  Doubtful the Cid gets convinced in his grave.
Posted by: Wo   2004-12-14 9:52:55 AM  

#14  They didn't? News to me...
Posted by: Ptah   2004-12-14 9:08:44 AM  

#13  Zippy's bought and paid for. The land will be returned to the ummah on the installment plan.
Posted by: ed   2004-12-14 8:59:33 AM  

#12  As Tony Blair is so keen on solving the "Israel-Palestine" conflict, I suggest he can practice on a case which is much closer to home.
Spain should be liberated and returned to moslem rule. After all it was part of the Khalifat and so "rightfully" belongs to the Ummah.
By returning Spain to the Moslems we catch two birds with one stone. First we (er.. I mean Tony)buy the Arab's gratitude forever, and second and no less important, we get rid of the cowardly Zappi.
How's that as a novel plan for advancing worldly peace and harmony ?? :)
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-12-14 8:54:30 AM  

#11  You are welcome, Commander Clueless.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-12-14 8:49:18 AM  

#10  thank you Captain Obvious
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-14 8:44:49 AM  

#9  a bow is a bend at the waist, what they did was more of an "all-fours" kinda thing

It's called "kowtow"
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-12-14 8:32:39 AM  

#8  a bow is a bend at the waist, what they did was more of an "all-fours" kinda thing
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-14 8:10:12 AM  

#7  Zappy had troop withdrawal as part of his campaign. As far as ETA-terror, I don't recall them blowing up crowded trains or targeting large numbers of people.
Posted by: Pappy   2004-12-14 7:56:28 AM  

#6  Not only did they all bow , but whilst they were touching their toes they appied a liberal amount of lube ....
Posted by: MacNails   2004-12-14 6:31:34 AM  

#5  Excuses, excuses. No matter, the bottom line remains the same: the terrorists struck, and Spain bugged out.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-12-14 5:47:13 AM  

#4  I thought I read that the Madrid bombings were planned from before the Iraq war, in which case Mr. Z has the wrong analysis of the problem. Think Al Andalus.
Posted by: HV   2004-12-14 5:44:48 AM  

#3  It's debatable. Zapatero may have been elected anyway, even if there had been no bombing. But I think he missed a great opportunity to KEEP the troops in Iraq. Once he was elected he should have told the Spanish people and the world that he'd fully intended to withdraw the troops, but after the Madrid massacre he'd decided that would mean giving in to terror.

Well, we can dream.
Posted by: Bryan   2004-12-14 4:20:51 AM  

#2  Spain democraticly bowed to terror by electing Zapetero but it did bow to terror.

So Zappy boy when the terrorists come knocking from now on. Which they have already since your election, it's on on your head.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-12-14 3:49:52 AM  

#1  Mr Aznar had increased the risk of attack by Islamic terrorists by supporting the war on Iraq

This statement and Zapatero's withdrawal from Iraq does in fact mean that Spain bowed to terror. At least a sizable majority did. Explain it away anyway you want, Zappy.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-12-14 3:03:52 AM  

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