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Follow-up: Bomber Was Probably In GI Tent
2004-12-23
A suicide bomber was the likely cause of the deadliest single attack on American troops in Iraq — an explosion at a U.S. base that killed 22 people, the Pentagon's top general, Richard Myers, said Wednesday. Myers said the attack was likely the work of a suicide bomber who somehow got into the mess tent with the explosives. Earlier, officials had described it as a rocket attack. Myers isn't saying whether authorities think the bomber worked at the base, or breached security. He describes the cause of the deadly blast as an "improvised explosive device worn by an attacker." CBS News Correspondent Kimberly Dozier reports FBI investigators believe they have found the remains of a suicide bomber's torso and a harness device within the mess tent wreckage. ...
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#31  Come on, Bushies. Admit that you now question his shielding of the Saudi entity, from justice, and chiliastic nation-building folly in the Iraq entity (AKA: dog's breakfast posing as a state). Force Muslims to do our killing for us, and THEN we win the counter-terror war. Do yourselves a favor, and cease the fanatic denial of the inherent global-genocidal nature of Islam, and the irredeemable savagery of Muslims. Bush-Cheney can take their deficits and Saudi doormatry, and go to hell. Islam is terror; Muslims are terrorists. .com is a self-important jackass, posing as a human being. Don't mistake him for we who support the occupiers.
Posted by: Fidal Fadil   2004-12-23 2:41:24 AM  

#30  Gee... I got a great idea. Why don't we send IDF to fight the insurgents than Iraq. Aww... but hey... there are no women and children insurgents in Iraq are there?. What dya say guyz?
Posted by: Faisal of Arabia   2004-12-23 3:58:12 AM  

#29  AKA: dog's breakfast posing as a state

It's our old friend Gen Tile! Still killing the wheelchair bound?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-12-23 6:51:09 AM  

#28  AKA: dog's breakfast posing as a state

It's our old friend Gen Tile! Still killing the wheelchair bound?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-12-23 6:51:09 AM  

#27  Force Muslims to do our killing for us, and THEN we win the counter-terror war.

All trolling aside, the chap does have a point. Bush's religiosity cripples his ability to identify another fundamentalist and (in the case of Islam) theocratic religion as a prime mover in terrorism. This is not to say that Bush is covertly attempting to establish theocratic rule in America. That is pure nonsense. Very mistakenly, Bush's own fundamentalism prevents him from comprehending the dire necessity for absolute separation of church and state. Concommitantly, this deeply flawed amalgam of religious commandment and legal statute pollutes the moral authority projected by America in its fight against terrorism.

All of this needs to stop now.

As the only functional democratic superpower on earth, America is obligated to project its vision of governmental "uplift" (per David Brin) into every sphere of militaristic or economic influence. Especially against those cultures which are the most repressive. Fanatical Islam's nature demands an equally intolerant approach against it. Violent jihadists must be eradicated. There is no other functional "Final Solution" to Islamism.

If Islam wishes to be accepted by all other religions as some sort of cooperative culture, they must be supportive of other belief structures. Any intolerance regarding differing opinions (as in the death penalty for apostasy against Islam) constitutes an intentional demand of ideological support for highly polarized beliefs. This is what leads to terrorism and remains totally unaceptable.

President Bush needs to make Muslims responsible for all further Islamic terrorist acts. This administration does not have the moral courage to do so. It endangers all of us. I refuse to accept this. America must make all Islamic nations responsible for terrorism. If they do not quash all extremist activity within their borders, they must be brought to task.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-12-24 12:42:22 AM  

#26  Guess Mosul is askin' to be Occupied now...
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-12-23 12:07:51 PM  

#25  I all fine with the retaliatory strikes using FA-18 Hornets, but the only thing these people understand is some down home D-9 razing of entire neighborhoods.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2004-12-23 11:51:26 AM  

#24  If it was a suicide attack, all the remaining Iraqi base employees should be screened thoroughly and advised that they have nothing to fear if they're on the up-and-up. However, in the event that they have any thoughs about trying their own little jihadi shenanigans, their next-of-kin will face the music. Something along the lines of home demolition possibly...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-23 11:24:01 AM  

#23  The disturbing aspect of the inside suicide bomber theory (other than the breach of security) is the coordination of the ensuing mortar rounds on the cleanup/triage team outside the hospital. I understand these are small team ops, these a**holes are still getting better as time goes on. Keep the pressure on!!!
Posted by: Remoteman   2004-12-23 10:50:23 AM  

#22  Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we should be in a sense somewhat thankful the blast took place inside a tent instead of one of the more permanent concrete-and-block mess halls they're building at most bases. The tent allowed the blast effects to rip through the roof, whereas the bunker-like structures would have contained it, making many more casualties likely. Additionally, the hole blasted through the tent roof allowed ventilation and sunlight in to aid the rescue and recovery efforts. In a structure it would have stayed smoky and dark.

It's not so much to be thankful for, but I'm just trying to find the silver lining in all this. There may have been another dozen or more casualties otherwise.
Posted by: Dar   2004-12-23 9:50:48 AM  

#21  Me too. Take off and nuke the thread from orbit, if ya ask me.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2004-12-23 9:24:16 AM  

#20  Clear the article of all comments and let's start over. Works for me.
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 7:21:47 AM  

#19  That was requested as soon as I saw it hours ago.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-12-23 7:17:57 AM  

#18  My two cents - dump the first post asap.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2004-12-23 7:05:13 AM  

#17  AKA: dog's breakfast posing as a state
It's our little Aussie friend Jen Tile.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-12-23 6:52:38 AM  

#16  You guys hammered that nail,then used a counter sink.
Posted by: raptor   2004-12-23 6:51:00 AM  

#15  ... so do we have the first comment removed before it winds up on DailyKos or LGFWatch to smear Rantburgers, or does anyone else think (like me) that the "Fidal Fadil" and whoever ends up posting it there are one and the same ...
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-12-23 5:09:07 AM  

#14  WA - Now I'm blushing. Such praise from a Super Hero, woohoo! Makes my head spin! A little secret, just between us K?, I posted just for you. I live for your approval. Thank you. Thank you so much. And, I have no doubt, all of Rantburg is honored by your presence and will be positively green with envy. W00t! I'm loving it... Thank you, again.
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 4:35:55 AM  

#13  I’m thinkin,’ like is this a Boris incarnation. But, I don’t think so. The awkward use of words that don’t quite match the concepts is suggestive of a poser -- Middle Eastern?

Then, is it one, two, or more? My guess is more than one, but in close proximity to each other -- like a squad.

Now, the purpose? My guess is to sow dissent amongst conservatives. Yeah, that’ll work. LOSERS.

Maybe I’m drifting into the tin foil land, but it was fun . . . LOL.
Posted by: cingold   2004-12-23 4:11:01 AM  

#12  Absolutely .com.

Looking at the recent posts lists it seems you are the only one stemming the tide of filth.

Well done.
Posted by: WingedAvenger   2004-12-23 4:08:32 AM  

#11  cin - I've been working on that. Tough slogging, though, heh. ;-)
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 4:08:12 AM  

#10  Lol! This article is like a shit magnet!
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 4:00:30 AM  

#9  why I was singled out

I think it's the way you mince your words. LOL
Posted by: cingold   2004-12-23 3:59:56 AM  

#8  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Faisal of Arabia TROLL   2004-12-23 3:58:12 AM  

#7  WA - Still haven't got that little bird flu thingy treated yet, eh?
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 3:50:00 AM  

#6  cin - You're so gentle, lol! Almost made me ashamed... but I got over it, heh. What I can't see is why I was singled out - I'm so mainstream and ordinary in Da Burg. Sheesh. They usually latch onto Fred or Dr Steve, lol! They're the Evil Twins of Doom, doncha know... ;-)
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 3:48:53 AM  

#5  I'll say one thing for people on this site; they know a lot about sentence structure.
Posted by: WingedAvenger   2004-12-23 3:48:35 AM  

#4  Lol! It's sure getting chiliastic 'round here!

He’s talking about chiliasm like it’s a bad thing. : ) LOL. Even the "chiliastic nation-building folly" phraseology is internally inconsistent. A little dog indeed.
Posted by: cingold   2004-12-23 3:39:01 AM  

#3  The biggest clue that you’re unstable is your resort to ad homin attacks. Try to listen to the challenges with a more open mind. A more subtle clue that you’re unstable is the effluence of your over-expansive sense that people know what you’re talking about and couldn’t rationally deny your “inescapable” logic. LOL.

inherent global-genocidal nature of Islam, and the irredeemable savagery of Muslims

Hmmmmm. I see at least two concepts paired here that shouldn’t be. One, the “nature of [fanatical] Islam,” I could agree with (although even that concept seems to be expressed in a skewed fashion). Islam is not some monistic whole, barreling its way through history. Different strands relate in different ways with the cultures and political forces in which those strands are found.

Second, the “irredeemable savagery of Muslims,” is pure inflammatory balderdash! People are people regardless of the movements and cultures in which they are caught up. Should I hate my childhood friend because he used to boast about his uncle shooting down U.S. planes over the Alps, and his mom and dad had fond memories of Hitler? I didn’t, we were good friends. I just reminded him of who won the war. People by and large aren’t monstrous, even when their actions are. To commit monstrosities, virtually without fail people must first dehumanize their victims.
Posted by: cingold   2004-12-23 3:14:20 AM  

#2  Lol! It's sure getting chiliastic 'round here!

So, uh, Fidal Fadil Fuckwit, what do you think you know about me, lol? I'm the guy who wants to FRY 'EM UP, you clueless retard, lol! Sheesh, you're like a little dog, yip! yip! yip! who gets himself all excited and pisses on others' shoes and mistakes it for deep insight. You're not ready to sit at the big table, yet, sonny, and you sure as hell haven't been around here long enough to comment. Now toddle off and wank your wee willie somewhere else, lol! Buh bye!
Posted by: .com   2004-12-23 2:53:40 AM  

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Fidal Fadil TROLL   2004-12-23 2:41:24 AM  

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