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Fifth Column
Soros group raises stakes in battle with US neo-cons
2005-01-12
Via Lucianne: I don't think the FT understands the definition of "neo-con". So, Georgy's exited his moneystery, eh????
A group of billionaire leftists philanthropists are to donate tens of millions more dollars to develop progressive political ideas in the US in an effort to counter the conservative ascendancy. George Soros, who made his fortune in the hedge fund industry; Herb and Marion Sandler, the California couple who own a multi-billion-dollar savings and loan business; and Peter Lewis, the chairman of an Ohio insurance company, donated more than $63m (£34m) in the 2004 election cycle to organisations seeking to defeat George W. Bush.
-- was this the secret meeting group in August in Aspen(?)?

At a meeting in San Francisco last month, the left-leaning billionaires agreed to commit an even larger sum over a longer period to building institutions to foster progressive ideas and people. Far from being disillusioned by the defeat of John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate, the billionaires have resolved to invest further in the intellectual future of the left, one person involved said. Their commitment to provide new money comes amid criticism of the efforts of high-profile donors such as the Hungarian-born Mr Soros to sway US politics as well as doubts about the effectiveness of record funding in helping the Democratic cause in 2004. The details of the San Francisco meeting are closely held. Mr Soros and his son Jonathan, the Sandlers and Mr Lewis asked aides to leave the room as they discussed the planned financial commitment. But the still-evolving plan, according to one person involved, is "joint investment to build intellectual infrastructure". The intention is to provide the left with organisations in Washington that can match the heft of the rightwing think-tanks such as Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. At a state level, the aim is to build what one person called a "deeper progressive bench".

The sums involved are the subject of speculation: one person said he had heard a commitment to spend more than $100m over 15 years, another said at least $25m over five years. Several people said their understanding was that the billionaires had decided to spend more, rather than less, than they did in 2004. Mr Soros donated $27m, the Sandlers $13m and Mr Lewis $23m to so-called 527 groups privately-funded political organisations during the 2004 campaign, according to PoliticalMoneyLine, the campaign finance tracking service. Stephen Bing, a film producer and heir to a real estate fortune who donated $13m, is also expected to be involved in the investment in progressive infrastructure. Andrew Stern, who is president of the Service Employees International Union, has been working to include organised labour in the initiative. Leftwing policy experts have already got wind of the new funds. One former aide to Mr Kerry said there had been talks with the Center for American Progress about making permanent the network of foreign policy experts established by Democrats in the 2004 campaign. He said he had been told: "Money is not a problem."
Posted by:anonymous2u

#31  Progressive INsurance?

Golden West S&L?

OK - onto the boycott list they go. I do not want ANY of my discretionary money going into the pockets of those who would use it curtial my liberty and detroy this nation with collectivism.

Somone got a web page set up to inform the many conservatives and libertarians who may be inadvertently contributing to people who would like to see conservatism (and libertarianism) destroyed and outlawed?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM  

#30  For an example of the ideas not the packaging, see "Air American" and its continuing spiral into the ground.

Hey Soros, give them some more money. Support Air america, pour your money into that black hole, buy advertizing there for your lefty causes.

BWAHAHAH!
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM  

#29  "Money is not a problem". They at least got that right, although I don't think they understand the actual meaning of the statment. Its not money, its about ideas. Basic human freedom.

The problem for the left, and especially self-important windbags like Soros, is this is not a fight about message or money - its the IDEAS behind the message that matter. The left still doesnt get it: their IDEAS are wrong - they are broken, they do not work, and most of America rejects them no matter how you package them. You can put 3 stripes on a turd and call it "Gucci" but only the gullible types who already support Soros and his collectivist socialist pals are going to buy it.

And all the money Soros wants to throw at this will be like pissing in the wind - his brand of collectivism is antithetical to "Red State" Americans. Always has been, always will be. And will be rejected the same way.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM  

#28  Progressive INsurance?

Golden West S&L?

OK - onto the boycott list they go. I do not want ANY of my discretionary money going into the pockets of those who would use it curtial my liberty and detroy this nation with collectivism.

Somone got a web page set up to inform the many conservatives and libertarians who may be inadvertently contributing to people who would like to see conservatism (and libertarianism) destroyed and outlawed?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM  

#27  For an example of the ideas not the packaging, see "Air American" and its continuing spiral into the ground.

Hey Soros, give them some more money. Support Air america, pour your money into that black hole, buy advertizing there for your lefty causes.

BWAHAHAH!
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM  

#26  "Money is not a problem". They at least got that right, although I don't think they understand the actual meaning of the statment. Its not money, its about ideas. Basic human freedom.

The problem for the left, and especially self-important windbags like Soros, is this is not a fight about message or money - its the IDEAS behind the message that matter. The left still doesnt get it: their IDEAS are wrong - they are broken, they do not work, and most of America rejects them no matter how you package them. You can put 3 stripes on a turd and call it "Gucci" but only the gullible types who already support Soros and his collectivist socialist pals are going to buy it.

And all the money Soros wants to throw at this will be like pissing in the wind - his brand of collectivism is antithetical to "Red State" Americans. Always has been, always will be. And will be rejected the same way.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM  

#25  Yo' George! I've got a wedding to pay for this year. How 'bout a little love? C'mon... just a little bit. I'm sure I can Progress. (Just what is it that so-called Progressives are trying to make progress toward, anyway? And why do you suppose they can't openly state it?)
Posted by: eLarson   2005-01-12 10:21:50 PM  

#24  Pennies from heaven will beat billions from hell any day.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-01-12 4:56:01 PM  

#23  2b: coming to a school board near you. Don't we have laws against foreigners contributing to elections?

Soros is a naturalized US citizen.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2005-01-12 2:18:26 PM  

#22  coming to a school board near you. Don't we have laws against foreigners contributing to elections?
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-12 2:14:00 PM  

#21  BA, "a deeper bench" means getting more Democrat progressives into local and state politics, thus creating a deeper pool of candidates. California is a prime example of this.
Posted by: Pappy   2005-01-12 1:16:36 PM  

#20  At a state level, the aim is to build what one person called a “deeper progressive bench”.

If I can speak "liberalese" correctly, this means there going after State-level (not Feds) judges too? Man, they've got another thing coming if they're going to mix in State politics also!
Posted by: BA   2005-01-12 11:23:05 AM  

#19  Progressive INsurance?

Golden West S&L?

OK - onto the boycott list they go. I do not want ANY of my discretionary money going into the pockets of those who would use it curtial my liberty and detroy this nation with collectivism.

Somone got a web page set up to inform the many conservatives and libertarians who may be inadvertently contributing to people who would like to see conservatism (and libertarianism) destroyed and outlawed?
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM  

#18  For an example of the ideas not the packaging, see "Air American" and its continuing spiral into the ground.

Hey Soros, give them some more money. Support Air america, pour your money into that black hole, buy advertizing there for your lefty causes.

BWAHAHAH!
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM  

#17  "Money is not a problem". They at least got that right, although I don't think they understand the actual meaning of the statment. Its not money, its about ideas. Basic human freedom.

The problem for the left, and especially self-important windbags like Soros, is this is not a fight about message or money - its the IDEAS behind the message that matter. The left still doesnt get it: their IDEAS are wrong - they are broken, they do not work, and most of America rejects them no matter how you package them. You can put 3 stripes on a turd and call it "Gucci" but only the gullible types who already support Soros and his collectivist socialist pals are going to buy it.

And all the money Soros wants to throw at this will be like pissing in the wind - his brand of collectivism is antithetical to "Red State" Americans. Always has been, always will be. And will be rejected the same way.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM  

#16  JM naied it. Fools and money.
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-12 10:34:03 AM  

#15  He keeps wanting to flush money down the toilet like this, he'll be cutting hedges for a living.
Posted by: tu3031   2005-01-12 9:55:06 AM  

#14  Article: George Soros, who made his fortune in the hedge fund industry; Herb and Marion Sandler, the California couple who own a multi-billion-dollar savings and loan business; and Peter Lewis, the chairman of an Ohio insurance company, donated more than $63m (£34m) in the 2004 election cycle to organisations seeking to defeat George W. Bush. ... Stephen Bing, a film producer and heir to a real estate fortune who donated $13m, is also expected to be involved in the investment in progressive infrastructure. Andrew Stern, who is president of the Service Employees International Union, has been working to include organised labour in the initiative.

The Muslim media think that conservatives are funded by big-time Jewish moneymen. But every single one of these left-wing nutjobs is Jewish. Where are all the big-money Jewish funders of conservatism? What the Muslim media haven't figured out is that the 9/11 attacks have fuelled a grassroots antagonism towards Muslims among conservatives that won't go away, no matter what a bunch of left-wing Jewish billionaires and anti-American Arab billionaire sheiks have to say about it.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2005-01-12 9:39:39 AM  

#13  What's this?

"...even larger sum over a longer period to building institutions to foster progressive ideas
...“joint investment to build intellectual infrastructure”...

Are Harvard, Berkley, etc. having another building fund drive?

Good grief, they already own the entire acadhimmic world what's one more think tank supposed to do? But, hey, if you want to pour money down the sewer.....
Posted by: AlanC   2005-01-12 9:34:59 AM  

#12  I have heard suspicions that Soros had his origins, and got his seed money, from a Soviet-bloc intelligence service. A true believer in the eventual victory of communism, he is still running on auto-pilot, with his foundation trying to interfere in the democratic process in a half dozen countries, with very little success.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2005-01-12 9:31:15 AM  

#11  It would be interesting to know how much this group donated to tsunami relief. I believe Soros is in for zilch.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-01-12 7:55:00 AM  

#10  What is it about having a Brinks truck or 2 filled with cash that makes these people want to impose socialism on everyone?
They ought to start by giving away all of their personal wealth to benefit the greater good, creating an example for the rest of us.

Singing Kumbaya to your enemies and socialism fail consistantly, but if they want to try to make that a feasible political stance in the US, well what can you say?, fools and their money are soon parted.

Posted by: JerseyMike   2005-01-12 7:34:04 AM  

#9  Look, if they actually develop viable ideas, we will all benefit from the ensuing discussions. In the meantime, a number of Liberal/Progressive (whatever that means) thinkers will be taken out of circulation, while they concentrate on thinking up new stuff and enjoying their comfortable surroundings. If, in the end, as I think is more likely, nothing more comes of it than the enjoyment, this select group of philanthropists will have less money to annoy us with later. Also a very good thing, no?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-01-12 4:06:56 AM  

#8  oh...and Stephen Bing and ,Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, are both reputed mobsters....

which is where I think all arrows point in the current Democratic party.
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-12 3:59:27 AM  

#7  Herb and Marion Sandler, Golden West Savings and Loan; and Peter Lewis, the chairman of an Ohio insurance company,the aptly named Progressive

Now there's two companies you might want to avoid. Anyone willing to pee away such large sums of money for lost causes isn't going to get a chance to handle mine.
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-12 3:55:44 AM  

#6  Throw money
Throw more money
Throw even more money
At a Problem you cannot buy or bribe
We of the Problem will be glad to take you all to the cleaners!

Jack.
Posted by: Jack Deth   2005-01-12 2:51:45 AM  

#5  "Money is not a problem"...well, that's nice. Unfortunately, their continued adherence to the failed tenets of Marxism/socialism is a significant one. They are doomed to failure. All the think tanks will be able to do is try and dress up the pig. I hope the money is spread around so good capitalists can use it.
Posted by: Remoteman   2005-01-12 1:48:08 AM  

#4  The Democrats had a network of foreign policy experts - who knew?
Posted by: Pappy   2005-01-12 1:12:41 AM  

#3  Typical liberals...got a problem? Throw money at it.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-01-12 12:51:59 AM  

#2  richie rich caviar socialists of the world unite--you have nothing to lose but your western white skin privilege guilt
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI   2005-01-12 12:49:20 AM  

#1  The sort of people this will attract are the same sort the UN attracts... The money will vaporize with little to show for it (just like the UN).
Posted by: 3dc   2005-01-12 12:35:39 AM  

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