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| Abu Ghraib abuser gets 10 years |
| 2005-01-15 |
| US soldier Charles Graner was sentenced today to 10 years' jail and a dishonorable discharge from the army for beating and sexually abusing prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. A 10-man military jury delivered the sentence one day after convicting Graner over the abuse scandal that caused worldwide outrage and tarnished the reputation of US troops in Iraq. The 36-year-old military policeman was seen as the ringleader of the abuses that involved beating prisoners, piling them up naked on top of each other and forcing them to masturbate. In his court martial at the Fort Hood army base in Texas, Graner argued he was following orders to "soften up" prisoners for interrogation, but the prosecution portrayed him as a "depraved" thug who beat and humiliated detainees for sport. |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #8 He needs to be jailed for the crime of being stupid enough to allow pictures to be taken of the whole mess, if nothing else. If you want pictures of a bunch of guys being hazed, join a frat house. If you want to haze a bunch of guys, join a frat house and make it through the first year. If nothing else, you'd have better-looking women than what's-her-face.... |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-01-15 11:19:42 PM |
| #7 Perhaps the "following orders" defense sounds reasonable to a lawyer schooled by left-wing professors and living in a segment of society that espouses moral relativism. |
| Posted by: Tom 2005-01-15 9:21:50 PM |
| #6 What kind of idiots were defending Graner? Did they actually think that the "following orders" defense, made infamous at Nuremberg, would work with a panel of American servicemen? It would have been a travesty and a national disgrace if it had, and the global outcry would have been deafening. On second thought, I think the lefty fifth column might be inclined to defend Graner on these grounds, since they would implicate the political figures who are the real targets of the Abu Ghraib uproar. This may have been where the defense was going, hoping to mobilize the doper-media conformist masses in a "free Graner" movement. Over thirty years ago, the leftist traitors of the time (many of whom are still at it) did in fact defend the mass-murdering swine William Calley, arguing that he was simply a scapegoat and patsy for a widespread policy of massacring whole villages at a time. By all rights, Calley should have been put against a wall and shot, along with all others who participated in the atrocity. It is still taken for granted in Euro academic/media circles that My Lai represented standard US policy. The lefties have trouble accounting for the failure of this policy to depopulate the country in short order, but facts have never been their strong suit. I have actually done the numbers on this. At My Lai, each shooter murdered about 12 Vietnamese civilians, on average, in an easy day's work. If this had been extended to all the shooters in our nine divisions and various smaller units (about 75,000) every day, the whole South Vietnamese population of 20 million or so would have been wiped out in about a month, two if they took every other day off. This is not even allowing for airstrikes and artillery which, as every good left-dhimmi Euro-bigot knows, were designed exclusively to kill and maim children and baby ducks. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2005-01-15 9:08:55 PM |
| #5 Mrs. Davis & 2b, maybe AzCat believes that being detained by US military should be scary? |
| Posted by: gromgorru 2005-01-15 8:13:51 PM |
| #4 surely, you don't believe that Traner and England should be pardoned? |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-01-15 8:04:45 PM |
| #3 Consider yourself shot at, Az. I'd be happy if they drew and quartered him alive and stuck his head on a pole outside the Capitol for a month.I don't like my tax money paying this perv to throw porno parties and take pictures of it to humiliate the Army. F$*k him and the slut he rode in on. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2005-01-15 7:57:11 PM |
| #2 I'll probably get some flak for this here but IMHO Bush should pardon every single US military person convicted of any wrongdoing in Iraq or Afghanistan. |
| Posted by: AzCat 2005-01-15 7:52:25 PM |
| #1 Oooppssss -- when it appears, please ignore my post of this on Page 2. I posted it about 15 minutes ago, but it hasn't appeared yet. So ignore when it does. Thanks |
| Posted by: Sherry 2005-01-15 6:38:04 PM |