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| 2005-02-23 |
Great Timing and Great Handle on the concept of Cause and Effect  PARIS - The World Council of Churches, the main global body uniting non-Catholic Christians, encouraged members Tuesday to sell off investments in companies profiting from Israeli control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.... This action is commendable in both method and manner, uses criteria rooted in faith and calls members to do the 'things that make for peace'," it declared, quoting St. Luke's Gospel.and we know that giving terrorists and incentive to kill makes for peace |
| Posted by:mhw |
| #14 F*ck with the boss's relatives, will you? |
| Posted by: gromgorru 2005-02-23 11:47:52 PM |
| #13 Badanov, the "by faith alone" controversy was a defining characteristic of one part of the protestant reformation. The eastern Orthodox, the Catholics and some Protestants find that .... unbiblical, a simplification that if taken too far becomes false. Oh really, true nuff? This is Fred's website, so I won't waste bandwidth on what he may regard as a religious argument, so I've taken the liberty to discuss your assertion, which I take you support as well, at my website. To encourage others to visit: After laying out the biblical foundation for "by faith alone", I give my reasons as to why I believe that "by faith alone" is the only viable long germ option when combatting Islamist Fascism. |
| Posted by: Ptah 2005-02-23 10:38:50 PM |
| #12 Badanov, the "by faith alone" controversy was a defining characteristic of one part of the protestant reformation. The eastern Orthodox, the Catholics and some Protestants find that .... unbiblical, a simplification that if taken too far becomes false. |
| Posted by: true nuff 2005-02-23 4:05:13 PM |
| #11 Anyone heard about this council of Churches calling for a boycott of say, Saudi Arabia or Sudan? |
| Posted by: JFM 2005-02-23 3:00:28 PM |
| #10 Midwest Conservative Journal calls them the "World Council of Churches Nobody Goes To Anymore." |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2005-02-23 1:19:25 PM |
| #9 Here are the North American members: African Methodist Episcopal Church [USA] African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church [USA] American Baptist Churches in the USA Anglican Church of Canada Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East, N.A. Diocese Canadian Council of Churches** Canadian Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in Canada Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Christian Methodist Episcopal Church [USA] Church of the Brethren [USA] Episcopal Church Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church Abroad [Canada] Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada Hungarian Reformed Church in America International Council of Community Churches [USA] International Evangelical Church [USA] Moravian Church in America National Baptist Convention of America National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA** Orthodox Church in America Polish National Catholic Church Presbyterian Church in Canada Presbyterian Church (USA) Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc. [USA] Reformed Church in America [USA] Religious Society of Friends [USA] - Friends General Conference - Friends United Meeting United Church of Canada United Church of Christ [USA] United Methodist Church [USA] You can get the rest worldwide here. A church is able to join if it agrees with the WCC 'basis' which you can read here. It is a great example of how something gets watered down when you try to be all things to everyone. |
| Posted by: eLarson 2005-02-23 1:09:52 PM |
| #8 At more than one wedding in my family, the minister intones. âThere is no salvation (paradise in the hereafter) except through Jesus. Good works alone will not enter you into Heaven.â Old Spook can probably give me a smackdown to set me straight, but I think Catholics believe Good Works are but a way into heaven. At least that is what one of my customers, a Catholic, told me. |
| Posted by: badanov 2005-02-23 1:09:06 PM |
| #7 The World Council of Churches, the main global body uniting non-Catholic Christians... Excuse me? Here is the deal. Personally, As many RB folks have figured, I am a believer. But, I avoid organized religion because, as amoral as the âReligious Leftâ is, and there is a âReligious Leftâ, the âReligious Rightâ seems to avoid a world view. At more than one wedding in my family, the minister intones. âThere is no salvation (paradise in the hereafter) except through Jesus. Good works alone will not enter you into Heaven.â I consider myself Christian, and I have known non-Christians, like the non-Synagogue attending Jewish 2nd husband of my sister who probably have a better standing with God than âdevout Christianâ relations whose business dealings make me cringe. Illegal? No. But their attitude is anything but Christian. Or for that matter, was the behavior of my sisterâs philandering âChristianâ 1st husband... But the fundamentalist believes Jesus forgives everything? So, why not live a bad live and ârepentâ on the deathbed? I know this is a common question, but the answer Iâve gotten is always nonsense. Sorry for the soapbox. Now to the article. We have to be careful who we group with whom. Donât associate any of this basically Totalitarian poppycock with all non-Catholic Christians. The WCC is an organization of pacifist nitwits who think God approves of sitting down and singing âKum-by-yaâ while Western Civilization is under attack. Their god does not want Western Civilization to be the top, because of all the historical nasties that have occurred. All other civilizations are worse and more murderous in their existence and history. If that makes me racist, then so be it. Western Civilization actually strives, in its philosophy to be better. It has lapses, but has a better track record of anti-brutality, especially in the last 50 years. God, most of all, I believe, wants us to use the life He gave us to strive be better towards our fellow man, but also look after our families as well. To carry on humankind, and not get the jollies of forcing others to follow the rules we like in their private personal lives. Of course there is a society and rules. I like some of the aspects of libertarianism, but not to the libertine anarchistic extreme. Part of governmentâs role is to respond when attacked. Israel responds when they are attacked. The murder of innocents by people who are not, in my mind truly human (as opposed to simply having Homo Sapiens DNA), deserves response. I donât give a ratâs ass about the âPalestinian Peopleâ until those people have the courage to stand up and say, âEnoughâ! Quit killing our children. Quit grabbing retarded boys off the streets to do your bombing dirty-work. If you are so convinced that strapping explosives to a body and committing suicide is good then YOU DO IT! Rachel Corrie is deservedly flat, because the leftist Totalitarian twit didnât understand paying off families of people who commit murder is not the way the you protest what you perceive to be injustice. There is no Ghandi-like Moslem because, I believe it is non-sequitor to the religion. F.U. WCC. You must be worshipping the same god as the Islamonuttz, because you certainly donât worship the same God as me. You are not honoring the God of life. You honor the god of death. |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-02-23 1:04:51 PM |
| #6 Why do small groups like this get BIG press coverage? I haven't heard that the Catholicsn are divesting from Israel? This is where the LLL MSM fails. They think the fringe represents that whole and nothning could be farther from the truth. I am a Catholic and I have never met, seen or heard anyone remotely connected with the church call for anthing but support for Israel. Deos the WCC represent Mormons and Babtists? I doubt either group supports the divestment strategery. |
| Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2005-02-23 12:42:03 PM |
| #5 Sure...and how about investments in oil companies that are owned by Saudis? |
| Posted by: Desert Blondie 2005-02-23 11:50:37 AM |
| #4 Even Satan knows the Bible but that doesn't mean he loves Jesus. |
| Posted by: Poison Reverse 2005-02-23 10:29:30 AM |
| #3 I call them that because the WCC supported Castro in the Elian affair and because throughout the Cold War, the WCC took the 'let's disarm now' stance. |
| Posted by: mhw 2005-02-23 10:16:26 AM |
| #2 "Religious Left" Now there's an oxymoron. With the emphasis on the "moron." |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-02-23 10:09:40 AM |
| #1 Religious left? It's making my brain hurt, like trying to picture a 5-dimensional figure. |
| Posted by: BH 2005-02-23 10:05:21 AM |